McSenile just referred to the country as "my fellow prisoners." - Page 2

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 12:45 PM

So if I go to a school that has no religious affiliation, that makes me an atheist? What rules are you playing by here? If I happen to know a guy or work with someone who later commits a crime, does that mean I "hang out" with criminals? I mean seriously? Guilt by association now? Really? Glass houses.

Things get blown out of contest in these political campaigns - it's getting absurd. And hypocrisy rules supreme. Had the situation with the pregnant daughter been reversed, and it had been Obama's daughter - there'd have been a war of words from the GOP about it.

Like I said... this should be about issues. The economy is tanking, we're at war, we've got a load of issues that need to be addressed and everyone's talking about the latest attacks from either campaign about Keating and Ayers. What is wrong with this picture?

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JCDerrick

So if I go to a school that has no religious affiliation, that makes me an atheist? What rules are you playing by here? If I happen to know a guy or work with someone who later commits a crime, does that mean I "hang out" with criminals? I mean seriously? Guilt by association now? Really? Glass houses.

Things get blown out of contest in these political campaigns - it's getting absurd. And hypocrisy rules supreme. Had the situation with the pregnant daughter been reversed, and it had been Obama's daughter - there'd have been a war of words from the GOP about it.

Like I said... this should be about issues. The economy is tanking, we're at war, we've got a load of issues that need to be addressed and everyone's talking about the latest attacks from either campaign about Keating and Ayers. What is wrong with this picture?

I know we are at war. I fought in it. Did you? And the president actually has very little to do with the ecomomy. Your scooling comment also hold no water. I went to military school and would be kidding myself if I said it didntn't have an influence on me. Just as a catholic school a muslim school or a buhddist school for that matter would.

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 01:00 PM

I think you're deliberately trying to smear his education by focusing on a school he attended for a very small portion of his childhood - when he had little say in the matter mind you.

And what difference does it make if I personally have fought in this war? No, I haven't. But don't question my judgment or patriotism because of that. My family has been in this country since 1732 and fought and died in every major war we've ever been involved in. So I don't like your insinuation there.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JCDerrick

I think you're deliberately trying to smear his education by focusing on a school he attended for a very small portion of his childhood - when he had little say in the matter mind you.

And what difference does it make if I personally have fought in this war? No, I haven't. But don't question my judgment or patriotism because of that. My family has been in this country since 1732 and fought and died in every major war we've ever been involved in. So I don't like your insinuation there.

I didn't ask about your family's accompliments....The question, have you fought was a direct response to you alerting me to the obvious fact that we are at war, and me letting you know I am well aware. And have probably had to modify my life as well as my famlies life way more than the average person because of it? No insuation at all, are you insecure?
I don't believe I want to comment on this subject any longer on here. This is a friggin banana forum for crying out loud.
If not for the political posts I would probably be having a pleasant interaction with JCDerrick and now it's getting edgey. So to avoid any further nastiness I am going to have to just say let's agree to disagree and put it behind us. I should have just defended McCain for his service and left it at that, instead of going after obama and getting into a wizzing match.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 01:17 PM

By the way great yard JCDerrick

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 01:21 PM

I agree, politics brings out the worst in everyone. So on that we can disagree, but on bananas. Nuff said, we're all here.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JCDerrick

I agree, politics brings out the worst in everyone. So on that we can disagree, but on bananas. Nuff said, we're all here.

Cool major melt down avoided! LOL wish international relations were that easy.

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 01:28 PM

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Cool major melt down avoided! LOL wish international relations were that easy.

Would be nice. Normally I know better to stay out of political threads.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 01:34 PM

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Would be nice. Normally I know better to stay out of political threads.

Me too! But I was sucked in this time. In your fornt yard what plants do you have growing under the banans on the left. It looks great!

momoese · 10-09-2008, 01:45 PM

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Your right about the barack husein osama I mean obama slip. He could be the biggest sleeper agent of all time! (I know its a stretch, but certainly possible)

Reminds me of this....

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JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 01:46 PM

This one?

You wouldn't know it looking, but everything but the banana, windmill palm, and sago palm are all in pots since none are hardy.

There are several hibiscus, crotons, two christmas palms, two chinese fan palms (which would probably do OK), a monstera, several cannas, an alocasia adora, and an colocasia gigantea. Also a brug or two in there, and some yellow flag.

I really want to put a Saba up in the front next year. I love hearing the neighbors tell me "You can't grow those here."

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 02:07 PM

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This one?

You wouldn't know it looking, but everything but the banana, windmill palm, and sago palm are all in pots since none are hardy.

There are several hibiscus, crotons, two christmas palms, two chinese fan palms (which would probably do OK), a monstera, several cannas, an alocasia adora, and an colocasia gigantea. Also a brug or two in there, and some yellow flag.

I really want to put a Saba up in the front next year. I love hearing the neighbors tell me "You can't grow those here."

Cool I think most of those moght make it ofr winter at my place.
I now have a good amount of bananas, but have to work on the undergrowth.

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 02:12 PM

I still have a lot of work to do on the undergrowth too; this bed in the front and one in the back are good - but the rest the bananas will soon tower over and it'll look a bit empty.

I would *love* to have your zone or warmer. I think you can even grow a T-Palm with decent results in your zone. Or at least the White BOP's - if protected. One day I have promised I will live in a warmer climate - though I'll admit part of the fun here is keeping all the tropicals alive and well; and seeing neighbors faces. Pulling them all out of the ground and storing them - not as much fun; my wife hates it. Plus it looks like my yard disappeared over night - someone stole it all (Jack Frost), LOL

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 02:24 PM

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I still have a lot of work to do on the undergrowth too; this bed in the front and one in the back are good - but the rest the bananas will soon tower over and it'll look a bit empty.

I would *love* to have your zone or warmer. I think you can even grow a T-Palm with decent results in your zone. Or at least the White BOP's - if protected. One day I have promised I will live in a warmer climate - though I'll admit part of the fun here is keeping all the tropicals alive and well; and seeing neighbors faces. Pulling them all out of the ground and storing them - not as much fun; my wife hates it. Plus it looks like my yard disappeared over night - someone stole it all (Jack Frost), LOL

I have white birds of paradise we will see if they make it through the winter.
Oh and MOMO give it a rest. I already said I would not continue the discussion. Go stir some stuff up on a political forum.
Have a nice day.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 02:26 PM

It does get pretty cold at night here only for few hours a night though. It can get down to 26 or 27f for a few hours a few nights of the year,

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 02:30 PM

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It does get pretty cold at night here only for few hours a night though. It can get down to 26 or 27f for a few hours a few nights of the year,

Same here, except our coldest nights usually are about 16F for one night a year or so, just enough to put us in zone 8. Typically we never go under 25F on the coldest of nights, but there's that one cold spell that always gets you. And it's usually right around Christmas or new year. After that, typically it won't leave the high 20's again. Though we have had some freakishly late frosts lately. April 15th this year and about the same the year before. I of course put all my plants out around March 15th bc it got up to about 70F or so; really nice and warm. Then comes that counter punch, LOL. Had to cover up half my yard like the circus. I'm sure my HOA really loved that.

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 02:58 PM

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I have white birds of paradise we will see if they make it through the winter.
Oh and MOMO give it a rest. I already said I would not continue the discussion. Go stir some stuff up on a political forum.
Have a nice day.

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Same here, except our coldest nights usually are about 16F for one night a year or so, just enough to put us in zone 8. Typically we never go under 25F on the coldest of nights, but there's that one cold spell that always gets you. And it's usually right around Christmas or new year. After that, typically it won't leave the high 20's again. Though we have had some freakishly late frosts lately. April 15th this year and about the same the year before. I of course put all my plants out around March 15th bc it got up to about 70F or so; really nice and warm. Then comes that counter punch, LOL. Had to cover up half my yard like the circus. I'm sure my HOA really loved that.

LOL. I am not dedicated enough to pot up and take my plants indoors. I just saturate the yard with plants and what lives lives and what dies dies!

JCDerrick · 10-09-2008, 03:01 PM

I could learn to love that mentality. Right now this is what happens, haha

lt_eggbeater · 10-09-2008, 03:04 PM

LOL that looks great indside... I'm way too callous for that though! lol! We eill see what can make it. I do however put coleman gas lanterns under the trees at the coldest times. They throw off quite a bit of heat.

Kylie2x · 10-09-2008, 04:03 PM

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