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The younger generation is less knowledgeable about what is termed a "slippery slope" Than more mature ones are. Many of us have seen how things go.... Once you let the govt. begin censoring anything it usually ends badly.
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WORMS. like worms in a computer. any body hear of Sticks and Stones.

you know why kim is giving up the nukes. divide our countries up with hate.! it has been written; divide and conquer. nukes there will be nothing left to rule. he knows that.

I say round up the haters that want to stir things up.........give em their own private island and guns. lots of guns.

a cold island extremely cold. give em something to think about besides..............hate.

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The younger generation is less knowledgeable about what is termed a "slippery slope" Than more mature ones are. Many of us have seen how things go.... Once you let the govt. begin censoring anything it usually ends badly.
The question arises whether these demographics also depict people's opinions of censorship by private industry such as Universities and Internet Forums. Of course, the First Amendment does not prohibit censorship in private industry. That is not an issue. But, I find it hard to believe that many of the people who advocate freedom of speech by government would also advocate censorship in private industry, i.e., it seems too hypocritical.

I looked for censorship demographics in private industry an found this:

Users Strongly Reject Censorship on Facebook, Twitter - Rasmussen ReportsŪ

With contradictory evidence, "Regular users of those sites, especially those under the age of 40, strongly disagree with any attempts to close down free speech."

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Americans See Free Speech on Campuses as a Thing of the Past - Rasmussen ReportsŪ

"A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 44% of American Adults think there is less freedom of speech on U.S. college campuses today than there has been in the past."

An obvious question to (apparently only) me is, "Would you support a federal law that limited censorship by private industry?" But, I can't find a poll of such a question anywhere. If you fall in the orange group of the aforementioned graphs, of course, you disapprove of such a law. There is no need to ask you. But, if you fall in the green group, would you? Personally, I think that such a law would be good for America because it would extend the First Amendment principles that made America better than other countries.

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I am not a big fan of the govt. telling anyone what to do or not do beyond what is necessary to maintain peace and order, such as traffic laws, laws against murder, robbery and rape and things like those.
For instance, alcohol prohibition made common men criminals and made crime pay, and pay well... so they repealed it...The modern prohibition does the same only the govt found a way to profit from it way more than taxes ever could have done. This way they gain, not only money but power and control as well and a "legal" means to destroy anyone who gets in their way. It's sad, really, what some humans do to other humans for money and power.
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What part of "anything else you would like to chat about" in "Tiki Hut All other posts go here. Banana jokes, travel stories, anything else you would like to chat about." don't you understand?
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I am not a big fan of the govt. telling anyone what to do or not do beyond what is necessary to maintain peace and order, such as traffic laws, laws against murder, robbery and rape and things like those.
For instance, alcohol prohibition made common men criminals and made crime pay, and pay well... so they repealed it...The modern prohibition does the same only the govt found a way to profit from it way more than taxes ever could have done. This way they gain, not only money but power and control as well and a "legal" means to destroy anyone who gets in their way. It's sad, really, what some humans do to other humans for money and power.
How would the government make money by prohibiting censorship in private industry? Rather than the government fining censors, the people being censored could sue the censors, i.e., only the victims profit.

Whoops! I reinvented the wheel:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...s-online.shtml

Paul Nehlen wants a $500,000 government fine per instance of wrongful censorship. I'm not sure I would support that. Maybe, $100 is reasonable.

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In my example they make money, but in your example they gain power. It's the slippery slope principle... The more power to push people or corporations around, the more power they take.
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MY Two Cents:
My fellow 'nana heads' - I have had the pleasure of having great exchanges - sharing information and nanas with many members at this forum without knowing their politics.
I didn't join this forum to discuss politics. I do have political opinions But, There are sooo many other appropriate places to express your political views.
I fear that this forum is being sidetracked from the original purpose and starting down a slippery slope.. COULD WE AGREE TO KEEP POLITICAL VIEWS OFF OF THIS SITE???
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My fellow 'nana heads' - I have had the pleasure of having great exchanges - sharing information and nanas with many members at this forum without knowing their politics.
I didn't join this forum to discuss politics. I do have political opinions But, There are sooo many other appropriate places to express your political views.
I fear that this forum is being sidetracked from the original purpose and starting down a slippery slope.. COULD WE AGREE TO KEEP POLITICAL VIEWS OFF OF THIS SITE???
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Exactly ... the reason for my answer in post #2! but I see others forum members have fell into the political TRAP ...
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I didn't join this forum to discuss politics. I do have political opinions But, There are sooo many other appropriate places to express your political views.
I fear that this forum is being sidetracked from the original purpose and starting down a slippery slope.. COULD WE AGREE TO KEEP POLITICAL VIEWS OFF OF THIS SITE???
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No. When you saw a post titled, "Free Speech Demographics." did you click it because I fooled you into thinking it was about bananas? You knew it wasn't about bananas but you clicked it because you wanted to attack my right to free speech. You were free to ignore this thread but, instead, chose to make off-topic comments. You are an enemy of free speech.

Let me make this perfectly clear. You are morally wrong.

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No. When you saw a post titled, "Free Speech Demographics." did you click it because I fooled you into thinking it was about bananas? You knew it wasn't about bananas but you clicked it because you wanted to attack my right to free speech. You were free to ignore this thread but, instead, chose to make off-topic comments. You are an enemy of free speech.

Let me make this perfectly clear. You are morally wrong.
When I saw the title I knew it would be more BS from you. Not surprising you chose to attack me personally. BTW your charts are incorrect. So does that make you a liar? Either way, you can be as perfectly clear as you want, your opinions don't matte to me. I was born in 1946 and I am a Boomer, a vietnam veteran and a patriot. I've also been on this planet long enough to know that you only get dirty when you step into the slop with the pigs. So, go ahead and ruin a good forum with your crap.
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When I saw the title I knew it would be more BS from you. Not surprising you chose to attack me personally. BTW your charts are incorrect. So does that make you a liar? Either way, you can be as perfectly clear as you want, your opinions don't matte to me. I was born in 1946 and I am a Boomer, a vietnam veteran and a patriot. I've also been on this planet long enough to know that you only get dirty when you step into the slop with the pigs. So, go ahead and ruin a good forum with your crap.
That's right, when you saw the title, you decided to click on it and, "step into the slop with the pigs" and "get dirty." Hypocrisy is immoral.

I didn't ruin anything because everybody knew what this post was about before they clicked on it. What they didn't bargain for is your off topic opinions. Thus, you are cheating them.
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That's right, when you saw the title, you decided to click on it and, "step into the slop with the pigs" and "get dirty." Hypocrisy is immoral.

I didn't ruin anything because everybody knew what this post was about before they clicked on it. What they didn't bargain for is your off topic opinions. Thus, you are cheating them.
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