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Old 08-14-2021, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Has anybody else noticed how expensive Florida Variegated is on EBay? I used to see it for sale for like $200-$300. Now itís like over $1,000! Jeez.
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Old 08-14-2021, 11:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Has anybody else noticed how expensive Florida Variegated is on EBay? I used to see it for sale for like $200-$300. Now it’s like over $1,000! Jeez.
This happens quite often.
The short answer is schill bidding.

A forum member does this.

Check out this Youtube video you might find it of interest.
This is one of the best vids.
There are a few more good videos on the subject.

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OMG! I am just shocked and appalled! I canít believe people would actually do that just to drive up the price! That is just so messed up & totally wrong. However, I am so glad to not only be able to know about what schill bidding is but to also be able to tell when someone might be doing it. Plus to think an actual forum member does this is just insane! Thanks for telling me about it and also adding the helpful video as well!
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Shill bids are one thing, but sellers are purposely putting up the price to the same ridiculous prices as other sellers. I know one guy who does it as a sort of negotiating trick. He is hoping someone will come along and ask him if he will take $400 or $300... doing so makes the price look better, and makes the buyer think they are getting a good deal since they "negotiated". Its the old used car sale trick of inflating the asking price, in order to get the high price anyways after the suckers negotiate a bit. They take advantage of those who don't do their homework first.
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Shill bids are one thing, but sellers are purposely putting up the price to the same ridiculous prices as other sellers. I know one guy who does it as a sort of negotiating trick. He is hoping someone will come along and ask him if he will take $400 or $300... doing so makes the price look better, and makes the buyer think they are getting a good deal since they "negotiated". Its the old used car sale trick of inflating the asking price, in order to get the high price anyways after the suckers negotiate a bit. They take advantage of those who don't do their homework first.
Heres the thing.. the value of an item is what someone is willing to pay for it. My point being that if the market wont support those prices, schill bidding or not, and nobody purchases the item, then the price will have to come down until a buyer deems it worth the purchase. Perhaps to you, that price is ridiculous, but there may be someone out there who thinks the plant is worth it.. its capitalism.. supply and demand. I dont buy from ebay, I have however purchased plants from ETSY.. ebay has always seemed like a place where you never know if the bidding process is on the level or not. For the record, I bought my AEAE from a seller in Indonesia. I paid 300 plus some customs costs. To me its worth it, to some, like my wife, thats insane.. If I sell pups from mine in the future, I will price them to be competitive in the current market. Just my .02
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Yes, buyer beware, besides the crazy price for the plants what about some of the shipping charges. Some people don't pay attention to shipping until they buy it. $120 for First Class package which is 16oz max, should cost $7-$8 max. $250 for a Large flat Rate Box, should be $21.90 max. Plus you never know what you will get. If people stop paying these crazy prices, the prices would go down.
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Yes, buyer beware, besides the crazy price for the plants what about some of the shipping charges. Some people don't pay attention to shipping until they buy it. $120 for First Class package which is 16oz max, should cost $7-$8 max. $250 for a Large flat Rate Box, should be $21.90 max. Plus you never know what you will get. If people stop paying these crazy prices, the prices would go down.
Inflated shipping prices is purposely deceitful. Zero excuse for that. As far as crazy prices, like I said, its subjective. When the market wont support that price it will drop. I dont think anyone is paying a thousand bucks for the plant, but i do think the 2-300 range has been where most sales occur over the past few years.
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Heres the thing.. the value of an item is what someone is willing to pay for it. My point being that if the market wont support those prices, schill bidding or not, and nobody purchases the item, then the price will have to come down until a buyer deems it worth the purchase. Perhaps to you, that price is ridiculous, but there may be someone out there who thinks the plant is worth it.. its capitalism.. supply and demand. I dont buy from ebay, I have however purchased plants from ETSY.. ebay has always seemed like a place where you never know if the bidding process is on the level or not. For the record, I bought my AEAE from a seller in Indonesia. I paid 300 plus some customs costs. To me its worth it, to some, like my wife, thats insane.. If I sell pups from mine in the future, I will price them to be competitive in the current market. Just my .02
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You know to begin with I think I mostly just wanted to complain. I had bought a Florida Variegated from a seller on Ebay just last year. Unfortunately b/c of the peat moss I used it died back to the soil line twice. Each time it grew back. However the 3rd it just gave up and died. So I went online to look to see if I could replace it. I was super shocked when I saw the prices of some being offered by different sellers. I do understand that the FV variety is an expensive one to start with. However, I would have thought that an AEAE would be more expensive than a Florida Variegated.

I went to the same seller I bought from last year. They had at least one for sale a couple of months ago. The starting bid was something like $865. So I just passed it by. I noticed that the next 2 ones offered had a starting bid $1000. Mind you this is for a plant thatís barely even 1 foot tall. This is the same seller who was offering about a 2í-4í tall plant with a wining bid of $250 or $300. To go from that kind of price just a year ago to hiking it all the way up to $1000 as a starting bid is just a bit asinine if you ask me. Iíve even seen a 6í tall AEAE sell for $500 including shipping. Believe it or not it was sold by a company right here in the good old USA! This same Ebay seller usually has good prices for all sorts of different varieties so why they are price gouging I donít know!
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