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harveyc 09-11-2010 01:46 AM

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Thanks, Cory. This accident came at terrible timing as chestnut harvest will start any day and I'm still trying to get ready. I'm fortunate to have recently hired a good helper but he still needs direction and supervision on most tasks. I was on my feet most of the day today and hurt a lot more as a result. I'm hoping tomorrow will be a little better.

Magilla Gorilla 09-11-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 141138)
Thanks, Cory. This accident came at terrible timing as chestnut harvest will start any day and I'm still trying to get ready. I'm fortunate to have recently hired a good helper but he still needs direction and supervision on most tasks. I was on my feet most of the day today and hurt a lot more as a result. I'm hoping tomorrow will be a little better.

WOW!!! I am happy you are feeling a little better and still with us. Take it easy my friend. Thank God you are o.k. As you know I have four ruptured discs and must have a helper even to dig a hole. Bob, some of us are not even old and need to take it easy. I can't afford to hurt myself playing in the garden. There is a time when you have to realize you can afford to pay someone to help you.

Jananas Bananas 09-11-2010 10:03 PM

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WOW! I am so glad you are OK Harvey! What a scare for you and your family. I know I would be freaked out if my husband took a spill like that. The man upstairs definitely has some grand plans for you. Hope you get to feeling much, much better sooner than later.

~JaNan

CoryS 09-11-2010 11:19 PM

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Magilla is def right! It's not just about age. I fell off just climbing too fast! Harvey, you sound like me now! It hurts worse if you move around too much so I tried to sit as much as I could. It does keep getting a little better though and after about 4 weeks, I only had to be carefull not to roll over in my sleep. :) After 6 weeks I could sleep on my left ribs but very carefully. Good luck with the harvest but be careful!

harveyc 09-12-2010 12:33 AM

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Cory, yeah that's a problem I've got right now. My back aches if I sleep on it full time but I just can't bear the pain to rotate to my sides for now.

Magilla Gorilla 09-12-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 141243)
Cory, yeah that's a problem I've got right now. My back aches if I sleep on it full time but I just can't bear the pain to rotate to my sides for now.

Harvey, that's what muscle relaxers are for. Just to help you sleep. If you don't allow your body to rest then it takes longer to recover. Some nights I get only four hours of sleep. The body needs to recharge. Take it from me!

Bob 09-12-2010 05:40 PM

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Andrew... your words turned out prophetic.. I spent the afternoon yesterday buillding a small fieldstone rock wall for a shade garden... probably lifted a couple of tons anyway to get the finished product..my back hurts... my legs hurt... my arms.... you get the idea. Didn't sleep well due to pain last night and tonight's not looking good either. Someone remind me to hire someone next time!:ha:

Magilla Gorilla 09-12-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 141301)
Andrew... your words turned out prophetic.. I spent the afternoon yesterday buillding a small fieldstone rock wall for a shade garden... probably lifted a couple of tons anyway to get the finished product..my back hurts... my legs hurt... my arms.... you get the idea. Didn't sleep well due to pain last night and tonight's not looking good either. Someone remind me to hire someone next time!:ha:

Bob, look at my spine. Hire someone!

saltydad 09-12-2010 05:57 PM

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Bob- I once did the same silly thing. rest well and feel better, buddy.

Jack Daw 09-12-2010 07:11 PM

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Andrew, that must heart a lot. What's the source of your problem? Sitting many hours at work and not much movement in general? Or some other habit?

harveyc 09-12-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Magilla Gorilla (Post 141244)
Harvey, that's what muscle relaxers are for. Just to help you sleep. If you don't allow your body to rest then it takes longer to recover. Some nights I get only four hours of sleep. The body needs to recharge. Take it from me!

Andrew, I don't think my muscles are the problem as much as torn or strained ligaments, etc. I'm taking 10mg hydrocodone for pain and ibuprofen to reduce inflammation. Despite the severe bruising I've got, I don't hurt much in most of those areas compared to my left knee, left shoulder, and right hip. My best sleep seems to be when I sit in my recliner icing down my joints.

I've never seen an image like that of your spine. I hope doctors are able to get you overhauled!

MediaHound 09-13-2010 07:06 AM

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That scan machine is a medical marvel.. amazing.

CoryS 09-13-2010 04:06 PM

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Harvey, I had to take hydrocodone too but they prescribed a muscle relaxer that I didn't take since it made me feel weird. They said a lot of the damage was probably to the muscles and that the muscle relaxers would reduce the tensions and let them heal faster. And it was def a lot easier to sleep with my mattress propped so that I was kind of sitting up so I do understand how sleeping in a chair would help. :)

LilRaverBoi 09-13-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaHound (Post 141344)
That scan machine is a medical marvel.. amazing.

Yeah, looked super cool for sure! I'm really wondering (from a medical practitioner prospective) what means this was generated from.... cause regular CT or MRI machines give transverse/sagital slices rather than a 3-D rendering! It must be some sort of rendering computationally calculated after normal scanning on one or the other.

harveyc 09-14-2010 01:47 AM

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I believe the image was labeled a CT (I noticed the letters on it), but it's sure a fancy one!

MediaHound 09-14-2010 10:53 AM

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Yea.. it would be cool if they could make a version of that scanning device combined into a suit wrapped in Organic LED fabric, so you can be a walking skeleton.
:2757::moonwalknaner::2783::2711:


:ha:

Patty in Wisc 09-16-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 140991)
Wow Harvey Im glad all finished well considering danger from ladder falling. Ladders are on of common tools in my job, for ones that dont know I work as power line lineman, and there is never enough care dealing with ladders. U ALLWAYS must secure them, rope them, tide them thake extra help but NEVER leave them on their own. We usually use them on 10-12m (30-40ft) and use without safety belts and ropes is just impossiblle. For home use I recomend wooden ladders, avoid aluminium and plastics.



:woohoonaner:

Hey Ante, would you go up this ladder? Ladder looks fine but look at those wires!

Glad you're OK Harvey

Magilla Gorilla 09-16-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daw (Post 141317)
Andrew, that must heart a lot. What's the source of your problem? Sitting many hours at work and not much movement in general? Or some other habit?

Pain is a relative thing. It has been this way for 14 years. You kind of get use to it. Trauma and bad genetics are the cause. Planting like a fool doesn't help but it makes me happy.

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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 141325)
Andrew, I don't think my muscles are the problem as much as torn or strained ligaments, etc. I'm taking 10mg hydrocodone for pain and ibuprofen to reduce inflammation. Despite the severe bruising I've got, I don't hurt much in most of those areas compared to my left knee, left shoulder, and right hip. My best sleep seems to be when I sit in my recliner icing down my joints.

I've never seen an image like that of your spine. I hope doctors are able to get you overhauled!

Harvey,
As I explained, I am planning to go to Germany for four artificial discs. What sucks is that I have to pay for it. Insurance companies are not your friend! Are you feeling better? Muscle relaxants can help with the healing process. Especially at bed time.

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Originally Posted by CoryS (Post 141380)
Harvey, I had to take hydrocodone too but they prescribed a muscle relaxer that I didn't take since it made me feel weird. They said a lot of the damage was probably to the muscles and that the muscle relaxers would reduce the tensions and let them heal faster. And it was def a lot easier to sleep with my mattress propped so that I was kind of sitting up so I do understand how sleeping in a chair would help. :)

I agree!

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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 141436)
I believe the image was labeled a CT (I noticed the letters on it), but it's sure a fancy one!

That was a CT scan. It enables you to have a 3D picture of my spine and then on the computer move the spine in any angle to evaluate it. You name it I have had it (CT, MRI, Discogram, Nerve conduction study, Steriod epidurals and Radiographs). I will soon glow in the dark! :)

harveyc 09-16-2010 05:41 PM

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Thanks, Andrew. I am still hurting quite a bit during the day once my hydrocodone wears off, so I can't say I feel any better yet. I feel pretty good by bedtime but haven't slept that well just due to insomnia or whatever. I'll try a muscle relaxant tonight as well to see if it helps with that.

I've had a never conduction study before for some other unexplained never damage just over four years ago. I felt like I was being tortured by Nazi soldiers trying to get me to divulge some secrets! What a terrible experience.

I don't envy your medical expenses, for sure, but I hope it will be well worth it to you. It seems my brother's latest surgery a couple of months ago was at least partly successful as the other day I saw him walking pretty well without a cane for the first time in at least a couple of years. He can actually walk faster than me now, lol.

Magilla Gorilla 09-16-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 141704)
Thanks, Andrew. I am still hurting quite a bit during the day once my hydrocodone wears off, so I can't say I feel any better yet. I feel pretty good by bedtime but haven't slept that well just due to insomnia or whatever. I'll try a muscle relaxant tonight as well to see if it helps with that.

I've had a never conduction study before for some other unexplained never damage just over four years ago. I felt like I was being tortured by Nazi soldiers trying to get me to divulge some secrets! What a terrible experience.

I don't envy your medical expenses, for sure, but I hope it will be well worth it to you. It seems my brother's latest surgery a couple of months ago was at least partly successful as the other day I saw him walking pretty well without a cane for the first time in at least a couple of years. He can actually walk faster than me now, lol.

For me it was not Nazi soldiers but my wife who wanted to turn the dial and zap the crap out of me. Stop laughing or you will hurt yourself. Yes it was painful but never have a discogram! The purpose of that test is to see if they can elicit pain. They do give you pain medication after the procedure is finished and you want to or have passed out. I enjoyed it so much I have had two of them.

The back surgery is actually more than $500,000 cheaper in Germany. Go USA! It will be around $75,000 in Germany. Why do I pay for health insurance? Don't get me started!


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