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Old 04-02-2009, 12:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am carrying this on from another thread about damaging critters:
" I just looked at my trap & there's another racoon in there (11:30pm). I really hate this! It's late & I can't do anything till morn."
Normally, they don't hit this early. When I looked out, I saw - I think MAMMA, circleing around the cage/trap trying to figure how to get her baby out. Same thing happened 2 weeks ago...momma came right up to my patio door & actually stood up to look in the windows!!! She went away then like she did now.
This is a smaller one (same as last) compared to momma who's back is as high as the trap!!
I wonder if I''ll catch her. How many more of them? I really don't like this!!
Once, last fall, I left a squirrel tied up in a plastic bag on my back deck & forgtot to put it in garbage. =Next day it was gross. The bag torn open & guts all over. A farmer friend said the racoons did it. Mkes me wonder... what if I fell asleep on deck...would they try to eat me alive????!!! I'm afraid to go out at night!! Esp now w/ baby in cage/trap. I'll wait till am.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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we put a mouse in a jar ( with holes poked in the lid the cat caught it and i just couldnt kill it) and put it on the front porch...well, we rushed out the house to get everyone to school and work....but by the time we got home it had exploded in the jar. i felt sooooo horrible. the poor little thing. so memo to anyone living in ga.......dont leave a mouse in a jar, in 90+ degree weather.
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Hiya Patty, I totally forgot about replying to your thread. So what was the situation?
I worked alot with wild animals in the past and I would like to add my 2 bits here. Coons are smart and intelligent animals like the monkeys. These smart animals go a long way to protect their own and their turf. This is what you should do, protect your turf by bashing them. This is not cruel, they get worse in their own fights, blood and all.

Have someone with you when you do it. Use a strong broom or something like that which can hit them hard and not get broken and yet not injure them. Also have some scented stuff like a mild shampoo around. You can pour the shampoo onto the broom before you hit them. It's like them using their scent gland to mark territory. You can pour a bit of the shampoo around your yard to let them know you own it. After being thrashed a couple of times, they will be intelligent enough not to come around especially if they can smell your presence (ie the shampoo).

I had a big monkey problem in my old neighborhood and they kept coming into the neighbors' house to steal things like wallets, food and wreak havoc. Before they got to my place I made it a point to chase them like hell and bare my teeth at them at the same time. I threw stones and sticks and drove my car very close to them and hitting my side of the door at the same time. In short, I terrorized them to the point they didn't want to have anything to do with me.
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Thanks Tog. Good point. Animals can be very territorial. These coons think they own the whole east side here! Couple have been seen walking down Brady street (2 blocks away)- lots of bars, shops & people etc, & they look at you like "what the hell are you looking at?" To be honest, I'd be afraid to go out & hit on them although I'd love to. I hear that if they are cornered, they will attack. But with 2 ppl, might be different story. These guys weigh 20 - 28 lbs....that's BIG!
Since March 20th, I trapped 3 - so far this year. Haven't seen any possum.
Ya know, they only come out at night & everytime I look out, I really don't see them unless they are in trap. I just might try the broom thing if I do. Maybe throw rocks at it to keep a distance (I'm a good shot - I played softball).
Someone suggested antifreeze. Sounds like a cruel way to die but we are overpopulated with these critters. I am not worried about them having it in their system & poisoning other animals. Nothing around would EAT them. Dogs would put up a fight & then we have to worry about rabies if bitten. So, I did put a dish of antifreeze out there. If anything would eat a dead raccoon, it would be one of them. You shoulda seen what they did to a dead squirrel!
When I see these things close up, I'm amazed at how big their teeth & claws are! They have very strong legs too. oooooh, shivers.
Monkeys have strong arms too. I wouldn't want to deal with one of them esp after hearing bout the chimp that ripped off the face of owners friend! Do you think the monkey would win in a fight w/ a coon?
..Almost forgot "situation". They are eating everything in my garden. I originally wanted to trap squirrels for doing so much damage & ended up trapping a total of 73 squirells, 15 raccoon & 11 possum since last June. Last summer I actually got to eat grapes & raspberries & had no broken plants later in summer. I didn't even know this many raccoon & possum were around here.
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Another way is this, if you get one in a trap, make sure it's really secure, like cable tie the door and then...whack the sh#@ out of it. Kick it around, shake it, drop it as many times as you can without the critter getting out. Make sure you spray the mild shampoo on it. Then let it off with a big ruckus. It will think twice about coming back and it will also remember the scent. I won't really kill these critter cos they are just trying to co-exist with us. But what I do to them will make them avoid humans and death.

Monkeys here are very nasty especially the Short Tailed Macaques, Maccaca nemestris. You know the ones which goes up to pluck coconuts. The male adults are the size of a young child with long sharp fangs and very powerful. I don't think the coon can stand a chance against it. It's like a medium sized Anubis Baboon.

Let me tell you something crazy I did long ago ;
I was the consulting Curator of a Reptile Park and they had this medium size Short Tailed Macaque which got too wild for the petting zoo. It is aggressive and not scared of anybody and was tied away in a quiet corner of the park. One day I was playing with it and it bit my hand. I was so pissed, I wrestled it and had both its hands behind it back and I bit it back repeatedly on its face and in between I bared my teeth at it.
What I did was very simian, I attacked like they did with their teeth and on their most sensitive part. After that incident it treated me like God! But....after I bit him on its face, well....I had diarrhea for a couple of days! You know how unhygienic they are.
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buy a coon dog it will chase all the varments out of your yard
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You are good w/ animals Tog. Wanna sleep in my yard this summer? LOL
"Coon-hound: a smooth -coated black and tan hound of a breed developed in the SE US to hunt raccoons." hmmmm
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I can just picture Tog growling at a monkey and biting it!
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ill tell u what if u hit that coon and dont kill it your gonna be in a world of hurt they are very mean and they will come after you especially if they have babies and they can really tear some **** up plus u will have to go to the hospital and get tested for rabies i would just trap them and shoot them or dround them like u are doing i seen coons kill big dogs already people around me use dogs to hunt them like they do bear and most of the time if the dogs dont tree them right away one coon will take on the whole pack and tear the dogs up bad and kill at least one or two in the process just watch out they will stand there ground they wont run from u!!!!
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I dont know how rural your area is but could you trap them and release them in a isolated area.....They are nasty lil buggers but they are just so darn cute to kill.
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Tell you guys something which may sound like some stupid joke. Coons are sold here as pets and they cost like $800 a head. Stupid rite?

I know some dumb people who bought them and tamed them and then got badly bitten later. Some had the coon eating the smaller pets in the house.

To me, an animal is an animal and you gotta to treat it like one. Try to be humane till you can't take it anymore. I guess the PITA folks will take us to court for this thread. It will be nice to see them trying to remove a lean mean hungry coon!
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Have you ever heard them fight? OMG, it sounds like wildcats! That's the problem, too. People find them so cute and unassuming, but in reality, they are rabies carriers, ferocious and multiply rapidly. Around the city they live in the sewers and storm drains. And opossums are right behind them.
They get into trash cans and get garbage strewn all over, they can destroy insulation in garages (homeowner's policies do not cover damage by animals) and have no redeeming value. They are cute, that's about all I can say for them. It's a problem that is becoming worse and worse. I had neighbors feeding the darned things on their back porch. Now there are dozens of them. Glad I moved.
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Jeff, I heard it's illegal to bring them elsewhere. I don't think I'd want a live coon in my car even if in a trap. I heard of one instance where they got themselvs out locked in a trap!

J, I was hoping you'd chime in. I know there are animal lovers out there who are disgusted with me, but I really do love animals. I am learning to hate the critters in my yard though. I don't think I could shoot a deer -- they aren't a problem for me. If they were, I would.
J is right about coons here...they are vicious and will attack anything getting in their way. ESP if babies.
I think the diff between here & where Tog lives is there is a much bigger area for them there. I think they 'proclaimed' my yard as theirs during nightime & allmost everyone has dogs so that will discourage them from making that yard their home. I have a pond & garden in summer & my dog died 4-5 yrs ago so his scent isn't there anymore.
I've seen them around for several years but never a problem till now & there are just too many! They are at Mike's town but there is room for them there.
Jeff, if you saw one of the coons here layed out on their bellies, you'd see them as 'not-so-cute' with their big sharp teeth & big paws/claws & muscular legs. They can climb a tree as fast as a monkey. Very powerful front arms!
Yes, Tog, they should have a chance to live but not here - in my yard doing the damage they do.
I think it's interesting that the bigger a 'critter' is, the more ppl want to protect it. Now, MICE..everyone has no problem killing them. Cockroaches? Oh HELL! Get rid of them. But, the bigger the pest the cuter they are for some reason. I'm sorry, but possum are very ugly to me. They look like big pink rats! Some ppl think they're cute! I used to think squirrels were cute...I used to feed them out of my hand when I moved here, but then I saw the damage they did.
I like fishing but I keep fish in my pond & used to breed angel fish. I love fish but I kill & eat them too. So, go figure.
Sorry to all other animal lovers but my 'critters' gotta go!
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O M'gosh Tog, I'll send you coons for $200.00!!! I could be rich by now!
I was 'humane' for years untill last year when "I couldn't take it anymore".
I knew a guy in the boonies a few years ago who adopted a family of coons when momma got hit by a car. He kept one in his house! It hid all day but he'd find poop & everyone thought he was nutso - & he WAS. When it got big something happened (he wouldn't say) & he put it outside. Not a good pet to have!
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Scot, I'll watch this tomorrow at Mike's house - my speakers don't work.
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I didn't think about the game wardens...but you might check with them about ways to remove them. and yea it might be some tricky driving while your beatin down a coon in the back seat.
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Great. I was amazed at some of the things contained in these videos. There are more of them on Youtube.
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