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I'm looking to plant several to act as wind blocker. This one looks nice. I have a wall about that high, 6', and don't want the branches of my windblocking trees to be below 6' cuz I have all the plumerias below that level.
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LilRaverBoi

It looks kinda like a white pine, but I can't be certain from the picture (kinda blurry and at a distance). Try pulling out a single needle and see how many come with it. If it's a group of 5, it's a white pine. Then again, I'm not familiar with all the pines that grow in your area...so it could be a number of types I'm not familiar with at all.

As far as the branches below 6' aspect...they can always be trimmed to any level once the plant gets tall enough. If you look at the pic, the lower branches have clearly been trimmed off to the current height to give that appearance.

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That pic is just too big...can't really see it.

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Yeah with proper pruning you can make almost any bush into a tree and any tree into a bush.

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CookieCows

I like messing around with bushes, making them into trees!

As far as pine trees go though, we have cedar trees that grow wild here and nothing grows under them. Don't know why and don't know if other pines are like that.

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Pine needles create acidic conditions in the soil, as well as ground-cover which typically inhibits other plants from growing in that location.

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CookieCows

Ahhhh Yes! I remember buying what they called 'pine straw' when we lived in GA to use in the flower beds to inhibit weeds!

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Yeah I've done that to a bush that was very mangled sideways when I bought the house. I propped it up and it's a very nice tree now.
I'm also working with a Knock-Out rose that's just gotten way to wide as a bush to see if I can make it a tree.
They even sell a lot of "tree bushes" now they sell them as a "standard" form.
Meaning like a "standard" or Flag- they're a pole with something on top.

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Dalmatiansoap

They look to me as Pinus Halepensis. White pine.

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Abnshrek

Yeah if it starts on fire its the hottest burning stuff on the planet.. I bet that kills weeds too :^)

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Originally Posted by LilRaverBoi
Pine needles create acidic conditions in the soil, as well as ground-cover which typically inhibits other plants from growing in that location.


I'm not quite sure what to make of these statements...

We use pine straw all the time, either raked fresh when it is available or bought as bales. Yes, it may acidify the soil, but I've never seen that inhibit the growth of ANY plant. In my profession that would be rather counter-productive! Also it doesn't wash away in all of the rain we get, it holds in moisture and controls weeds by covering bare soil - not by modifying pH.

CC, if you bought it out of a trailer in the parking lot of Lowes or Home Depot they called it 'pine straw' because it IS pine straw !

Russell

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CookieCows

I think they just called it pine straw because it was baled up in a bale but it was a bundle of long pine needles. Everyone used it down there the same as wood chips, around their plants in flower beds to hold in moisture and inhibit weeds just like you said.

Cedar trees like I'm talking about where nothing grows under them is something different than regular pine. They don't drop a lot of needles like pines, they're more like a spruce and they drip sap which I think is what must inhibit plant growth underneath. I just mentioned it as if there is plumaria planted underneath, it would be terrible to invest a lot of money in the wrong type of trees. I didn't know a thing about any of this until I moved out here.

P.S. I refered to "pines" in my first post in a broad manner and my husband corrected me afterwards.

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Tony O

Cedar trees search out water worse than willows. They suck all the moisture out of the soil anywhere that the roots are, leaving none for other plants to drink. Between that, and the thick canopy blocking out any sunlight, it's almost impossiable for anything to grow there. That's why you don't want one anywhere near a sepict system either.

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CookieCows

That makes sense! When we cleared out the land for pasture we left clumps of them here and there for the livestock to stand under. They really do have a thick canopy and the wood is wonderful smelling. I've been bugging my husband to take a couple trees down to the mill and have it cut up into boards so we can make something.

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