subtropical papayas?
What experiences might you have growing papayas in subtropical climates (zone 9/10) ? Are there Carica cultivars with a reasonable taste that can be grown outdoors?
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Personally I haven't done this (I live in the tropics), but I have a friend in Oslo who's growing the standard papaya's highland ancestor Vasconcellea cundinamarcensis (hardy to Z10) outdoors in pots. He overwinters them in his garage.
I have eaten V. cundinamarcensis fruits, and they're remarkably similar to "regular" Carica type papayas. |
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I saw some growing at Leu Botanical Gardens, in Orlando. Maybe Eric, who is connected to Leu, and posts here, can give us some details.
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I personally grow several types here in 9b. I ran across a rare heirloom type from Asia that can handle temps down past 25F. It is called 'Sweet Sue' and is the largest growing papaya I have ever seen. It puts out large quantities of really sweet high quality fruits. It is very beautiful as well.
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Wow, that's one large Papaya plant! What are the names and characteristics of the other varieties you are growing?
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I'm trying one for the first time this year. Right now it is in a pot and only about 12"-14" tall. I didn't have a good place to put it in the ground so I'll shift it up to a bigger pot as needed.
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Btw, my banana has really recovered from the hit it took this year. I have two fresh leaves that have grown out of the fried others, and I see another new one forming, so I am happy about that. I have seeds for trade on all papayas except the X-77, and the C. Red. |
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I have a problem growing papayas in my area due to cold weather. I tried it for several years without any success. Winter tempt always kill them and so the bugs.
So I am trying to grow babaco instead. |
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I tried to PM the source and also try to post my intentions in other forums but so far there are no answer to my query to get the sweet sue papaya.
I exhausted all the avenues I know to obtain one. |
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I could probably spare some seeds.
In answer to where I got them.. from a friend who grows many types of bamboo as well. His sweet sue papayas are impressive. This sweet sue was brought from Thailand to the Rio Grande area I believe. |
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Hi. I just saw these same pics on the heirloom website and wondering if you have any of those sweet sue seeds around? Just curious: You had only offered about 50 seeds at the other site and I wondered if this is because these papayas only produce a very few seeds? Very curious and interested to try some Sweet Sue in this zone (9). I have some papayas growing in my backyard right now. I think there are 3 males (flowers but no fruits) and one female (really big flowers that are currently becoming fruits). |
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In the freeze of 2007, we had 3 nights where the over night temperatures were in the mid-30's F and then hit 28 F before dawn. All but one of my plants survived. My Passiflora quadrangularis died almost instantly, but my Passiflora edulis cultivar "Frederick" was just fine, with leaf-edge burn on about 10% of the leaves. |
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I just discovered that there are two small papaya plants happily growing in my compost area (they grew from seeds, I found them yesterday, and I wasn't even trying!) but I know that they will need to be potted and brought inside if it gets into the 30s. I have 4 others (about 8' tall, bought from a nursery last fall and planted this last spring), and I've got 5-6 fruits growing on one of them which I believe is the only female. So far, the largest fruit is about 6'' long and still very green. The rest are male and only produce their smaller flowers. Will try to upload some pics very soon. |
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BTW, hello everyone! I haven't visited this site in a while but I do grow pineapples and now my papayas are producing. I traced a google of sweet sue papayas to this site and like some of you, I am looking for some seeds for those wonderful trees. Anyone know if those sweet sue's have very few seeds? I'm wondering why the shortage and rareness.
Everything seems to grow very well here in zone 9 but I want the sweet sues (Tolerates down to 25 F) because our frosts put a "wet blanket" on the otherwise amazing climate that turns an ordinary compost pile into a virtual seedling farm, with no effort required. I also have about 20 pineapple plants here and though I've been told numerous times that you can't grow them here, I say just tell it to my 20 pineapples (actually, I have an unusually well-protected area, so it takes a very hard frost to really get \'em--like last winter--but strangely, they seem to have been stimulated to produce fruit, although their leaves were turned into mush. They still survived and produced fruit. I am working on getting the bananas going... |
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