Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Other Topics > Other Plants
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Other Plants Discussion of all other types of plants besides bananas.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-29-2012, 01:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
venturabananas's Avatar
 
Location: Ventura, CA
Zone: 10
Name: Mark
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,845
BananaBucks : 212,593
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,751 Times
Was Thanked 3,967 Times in 1,712 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 39 Times
Default shade tolerant fruiting plants?

I'm looking for fruiting plants that are shade tolerant and not too tall. I have a spot in the back of my yard that is shaded during summer by the neighbor's trees, but is fairly sunny in winter, when the angle of the sun drops. I'm at a loss for something that will reliably produce fruit in this situation. Any suggestions?
__________________
Click for Ventura, California Forecast
venturabananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To venturabananas
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 02-29-2012, 01:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
barnetmill
 
barnetmill's Avatar
 
Location: 8b in Northwest Florida near Alabama
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 293
BananaBucks : 53,381
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 109 Times
Was Thanked 316 Times in 200 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 37 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Very good question. I am also looking for some cultivars that will produce in the shade. I hope there is something will grow in the shade other than mushrooms.
barnetmill is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To barnetmill
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 02:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
I think with my banana ;)
 
Jack Daw's Avatar
 
Location: BA, SK, CEU
Zone: Dfa (Köppen-geiger) <-> 7b/8a? (USDA)
Name: Jack
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,525
BananaBucks : 188,194
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,771 Times
Was Thanked 2,456 Times in 1,352 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 383 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnetmill View Post
Very good question. I am also looking for some cultivars that will produce in the shade. I hope there is something will grow in the shade other than mushrooms.
Still, I would like to start growing some mushrooms this season. But have to read a lot about it first.
__________________
Thnx to Marcel, Ante, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar and Francesco for the plants I've received.



Zeitgeist - Corporatocracy 101 (~2hrs)

Zeitgeist - Moving Forward (~2.5hrs)
Jack Daw is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Jack Daw
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 02:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
un-Retired
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks : 318,550
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was Thanked 12,530 Times in 4,716 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas View Post
I'm looking for fruiting plants that are shade tolerant and not too tall. I have a spot in the back of my yard that is shaded during summer by the neighbor's trees, but is fairly sunny in winter, when the angle of the sun drops. I'm at a loss for something that will reliably produce fruit in this situation. Any suggestions?
Fruit production requires energy and ... well, that's a problem in shade.

Beets and/or Chards would do well there year-round.

Broccoli is likely to work there in the 2nd part of our "winter", and Kale would work there year-round.

Peas would work there provided the shade doesn't arrive too early.
__________________
Doodling along at tangentvectors.org
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Richard
Old 02-29-2012, 09:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: San Diego
Zone: 9-11
Name: Tony
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 18,429
BananaBucks : 634,814
Feedback: 8 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,210 Times
Was Thanked 20,576 Times in 7,758 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,716 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Shade Tolerant Fruit Plants « Lawrence Fruit Tree Project – Lawrence, Kansas

KYSU Pawpaw Planting Guide

Last edited by sunfish : 02-29-2012 at 09:38 AM.
sunfish is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To sunfish
Sponsors

Old 02-29-2012, 11:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
barnetmill
 
barnetmill's Avatar
 
Location: 8b in Northwest Florida near Alabama
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 293
BananaBucks : 53,381
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 109 Times
Was Thanked 316 Times in 200 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 37 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard View Post
Fruit production requires energy and ... well, that's a problem in shade.

Beets and/or Chards would do well there year-round.

Broccoli is likely to work there in the 2nd part of our "winter", and Kale would work there year-round.

Peas would work there provided the shade doesn't arrive too early.
Well at least somethings will grow and I do need to start growing vegetables. I notice what wild persimmons do is grow tall enough to get some sunlight by getting above the understory. But they grow a lot faster in full sunlight for sure.
barnetmill is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To barnetmill
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 12:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
venturabananas's Avatar
 
Location: Ventura, CA
Zone: 10
Name: Mark
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,845
BananaBucks : 212,593
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,751 Times
Was Thanked 3,967 Times in 1,712 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 39 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard View Post
Fruit production requires energy and ... well, that's a problem in shade.

Beets and/or Chards would do well there year-round.

Broccoli is likely to work there in the 2nd part of our "winter", and Kale would work there year-round.

Peas would work there provided the shade doesn't arrive too early.
I guess, to be accurate, I'd have to say that there is bright indirect light during summer. The canopy over the spot keeps direct sun off the spot in summer. The 50-year-old jade plants in the spot seem happy and are flowering away. If only they made tasty fruit!

I was hoping for a permanent, perennial, shrub sized, fruiting plant. Tony's link had some good suggestions, most of which, unfortunately, won't be happy in coastal So. Cal. I guess I could try blackberries, but it seems like they need a lot of attention from the pruning to keep them in bounds perspective.
__________________
Click for Ventura, California Forecast
venturabananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To venturabananas
Old 02-29-2012, 12:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
un-Retired
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks : 318,550
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was Thanked 12,530 Times in 4,716 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas View Post
I was hoping for a permanent, perennial, shrub sized, fruiting plant. Tony's link had some good suggestions, most of which, unfortunately, won't be happy in coastal So. Cal. I guess I could try blackberries, but it seems like they need a lot of attention from the pruning to keep them in bounds perspective.
I notice that blackberries and other Rubus will grow in shade, but the majority of fruit production is just outside the drip line (in the sun) of the over-canopy. You might have noticed this in forests.

Given the partial shade, Dragon Fruit would work, provided you are in 10a not 9b. There are others ... PM me as a reminder as I have to take off to move 10 pallets of soil.
__________________
Doodling along at tangentvectors.org
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Richard
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 02:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
Let there be light
 
Dalmatiansoap's Avatar
 
Location: Makarska, Croatia
Zone: 9
Name: Ante
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 9,115
BananaBucks : 542,761
Feedback: 10 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 6,464 Times
Was Thanked 8,307 Times in 2,999 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 712 Times
Send a message via Skype™ to Dalmatiansoap
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Pindo palm?
__________________
https://abnb.me/AXJty518xib
Dalmatiansoap is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dalmatiansoap
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 05:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
Bob3's Avatar
 
Location: Sacramento, Luxemburg
Zone: 9 &
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 466
BananaBucks : 39,909
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 128 Times
Was Thanked 512 Times in 265 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 97 Times
Send a message via Skype™ to Bob3
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
I'm looking for fruiting plants that are shade tolerant and not too tall. I have a spot in the back of my yard that is shaded during summer by the neighbor's trees, but is fairly sunny in winter, when the angle of the sun drops. I'm at a loss for something that will reliably produce fruit in this situation. Any suggestions?
How about Loquats? Most of ours are in at least partial shade, as well as on the North side of the house.
When we were shipping them to the Gulf, to replace shrubs/bushes/hedges lost in Katrina, some of them were grown as a hedge, underneath taller "cousins" for a fast-growing windbreak, they did OK being shade-bound for the most part.
__________________
Recipes & links for Cajun, Creole, & other goodies.
Bob3 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Bob3
Said thanks:
Old 02-29-2012, 08:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
Zone 10, South Florida
 
jeffreyp's Avatar
 
Location: Royal Palm Beach
Zone: 10
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 870
BananaBucks : 127,135
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 30 Times
Was Thanked 590 Times in 298 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Send a message via MSN to jeffreyp Send a message via Skype™ to jeffreyp
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

elderberry, pawpaw and even some bananas! I think if you consider plants that would normally grow in forest conditions that might give you some hints or ideas of what's possible.

Last edited by jeffreyp : 02-29-2012 at 11:00 PM.
jeffreyp is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To jeffreyp
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 12:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
BananaBucks : 15,722
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 50 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 7 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

My recommendation would be naranjilla.

The foliage is stunning and will become a talking point of your garden, i've grown them and have found them to enjoy warm, moist shaded conditions best so i think sun in winter, shade in summer would be fantastic. the fruits are small and i only got small crops but boy are they jam packed with sweet-tart goodness

Naranjilla - Solanum quitoense

cheers
dany
PS i grew them in newcastle, Australia (coastal)(don't know how that stacks up against your climate)
dboo is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To dboo
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 01:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
un-Retired
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks : 318,550
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was Thanked 12,530 Times in 4,716 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Naranjilla would definitely be interesting. I am growing one here in a somewhat sheltered position but otherwise full sun. It is a real looker. It flowers constantly and about 1/2 of them set. The fruits are a little larger than a golf ball. I have heard that in the tropics the fruit ripens in 60 days, but here it is 14 months.

Also consider fruiting members of the Rhododendron family, including southern blueberries and the native California Huckleberry.

If you want to get carried away you can try "5 flavor fruit" -- the magnolia vine. One Green World in Oregon carries a self-fertile hybrid "Eastern Prince". It needs the summer partial shade as it is native to northern China.

Surinam Cherry will work there but the fruit production will be impacted. Java Plum is also a consideration.
__________________
Doodling along at tangentvectors.org
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Richard
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 06:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
trebor's Avatar
 
Location: Florida
Zone: POMPANO BEACH, FL Zone 10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 759
BananaBucks : 97,922
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 845 Times
Was Thanked 1,329 Times in 483 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 256 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Daw View Post
Still, I would like to start growing some mushrooms this season. But have to read a lot about it first.
Shroomery - Magic Mushrooms (Shrooms) Demystified that a pretty good place to read about mushrooms I'm lucky I got a friend who grows them . every once in a wile . I been toying with doing them myself and just got some mason jars 2 days ago . So I think I am going to start But I need to get my chickens all set up and then play with mushrooms.. Yes Mushroom grow in the shade and the best production is in cooler weather lows nights in high 60's is good .. There are some great dvds on how to grow and do everything relating to mushrooms Let's Grow Mushrooms! by Marc R Keith - Let's Grow Mushrooms if you get his you need nothing more .
__________________


If ya can't eat it, it ain't growing in my back yard !
trebor is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To trebor
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 05:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 26
BananaBucks : 2,099
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 25 Times
Was Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Can paw paws tolerate southeastern US climate?
gaberoo is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To gaberoo
Old 03-01-2012, 05:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 26
BananaBucks : 2,099
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 25 Times
Was Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffreyp View Post
elderberry, pawpaw and even some bananas! I think if you consider plants that would normally grow in forest conditions that might give you some hints or ideas of what's possible.
Have you grown paw-paw in South Florida?
gaberoo is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To gaberoo

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 03-01-2012, 05:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: San Diego
Zone: 9-11
Name: Tony
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 18,429
BananaBucks : 634,814
Feedback: 8 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,210 Times
Was Thanked 20,576 Times in 7,758 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,716 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaberoo View Post
Can paw paws tolerate southeastern US climate?
Habitat of the Pawpaw Tree
sunfish is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To sunfish
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 05:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
HoaNui's Avatar
 
Location: Gardenstown
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 77
BananaBucks : 33,831
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 72 Times
Was Thanked 53 Times in 26 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 11 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard View Post

Broccoli is likely to work there in the 2nd part of our "winter", and Kale would work there year-round.

Peas would work there provided the shade doesn't arrive too early.
Nice to see kale mentioned there. For some reason it has lost its popularity here. Having said that I have a great tasting red Russian kale that I grow in the shade.
HoaNui is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To HoaNui
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 06:19 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
Bob3's Avatar
 
Location: Sacramento, Luxemburg
Zone: 9 &
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 466
BananaBucks : 39,909
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 128 Times
Was Thanked 512 Times in 265 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 97 Times
Send a message via Skype™ to Bob3
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaberoo View Post
Can paw paws tolerate southeastern US climate?
YEP! There are even a few cultivars that are specific to the SE US.


Asimina triloba. (10) ASIM-23. Packet: $3.00
Seedlist AP-AZ
__________________
Recipes & links for Cajun, Creole, & other goodies.
Bob3 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Bob3
Said thanks:
Old 03-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 26
BananaBucks : 2,099
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 25 Times
Was Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times
Default Re: shade tolerant fruiting plants?

Excellent! Thanks guys. I think I'll give paw paw a try here in Miami (Redlands to be exact).

Does anyone know if anyone is actually cultivating the fruit in South Florida? Redlands? Homestead? I'd like to buy some fresh paw paw to give it a try (I've heard it tastes really good).
gaberoo is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To gaberoo
Sponsors

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: Chambeyronia Macrocarpa Palm
Next Thread: Something For Free





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Two more plants are fruiting Magilla Gorilla Main Banana Discussion 4 09-18-2010 10:01 PM
What's fruiting in your garden (Other Plants)? Dean W. Other Plants 0 07-29-2010 08:20 PM
salt air tolerant container plants-tropical?? jjjankovsky Other Plants 5 08-11-2009 07:39 AM
Fruiting the bigger plants another way. Crazy? Casa Del Gatos Main Banana Discussion 7 09-14-2005 01:36 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 PM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.