Richard

The tag is incorrect - Pineapple Guava species is Acca sellowiana. What cultivar did you obtain?

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MSmith

hello Richard, the tag doesnt list a cultivar, it only says feijoa sellowiana. It came from Nakase Brothers Wholesale Lake Forest , CA
Lowes did have bigger ones in 5 gallon containers, maybe they list the cultivar on them, I'll check them next time. Heres a link to Lowes plant info on this species Lowes.com : Lowe’s Plant Guide

I just emailed the Nakese bros Ill report back if I get a reply

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Richard

I'm sure you don't do your grocery shopping at 7-Eleven. Buying fruiting plants from a big box store is the same sort of thing.

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MSmith

Yea I remember someone saying that about the bananas being mislabled at the bigbox stores. I went back today to look for the cultivar but didnt find anything, and the email to the nursery didnt go through. Oh well, I'm learning

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GoAngels

I actually called Nakese Bros when I saw a pineapple guava at Home Depot with their label and no cultivar. They could not, or would not, tell me what the cultivar was.

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cherokee_greg

Is this tag ok or is it wrong too ?

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Greg zone 9 Fresno,CA
http://gardenjot.com/garden/view/1980/Gregs-Banana-Farm

Richard

Assuming the tag is otherwise correct, it should read:
Acca sellowiana "Coolidge".

Acca = plant Genus name
sellowiana = plant Species name
Coolidge = cultivar name

The cultivar "Nazemetz" (and other spellings) has growing availability in the U.S. Look for it -- the fruit is larger and improved quality over Coolidge.

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GoAngels

That one is probably from La Verne nursery...

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sunfish

I have ome across the street

lkailburn

is the Nazemetz cultivar self fertile? I have seedlings popping up just for fun, but am looking to pick up a named variety for actual fruit production. If you have a link to share about that cultivar please post.
Thanks!
-Luke

Patty in Wisc

I just found I have several baby pineapple guava fruits about 1 inch long!! I noticed a few more blossoms recently & also noticed the ruby Supreme Red has blossoms for the first time in 6-7 years. The Ruby blossomed after the pineapple but somehow the pineapple got pollinated. Geeze, this only took 6 years
There were a few times the plants got droopy from intense heat this summer,.... so maybe that shocked it to blossom again.

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lkailburn

Post up some photos if you have some! Would be neat to see

-Luke

venturabananas

lkailburn, Nazemetz is supposed to be self fertile, though I believe that cross fertilization is supposed to increase fruit set in this and other varieties.

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harveyc

I'm curious why the genus name change never caught on with nurseries or the public. People that have been collecting and growing them for 30 or 50 years with vast experience with them still refer to them as feijoa.

I went to a tasting of feijoa yesterday, tasting about 10 named varieties and another 20 or 30 seedlings in trial. I don't have anything written up yet (need to share notes with others), but some were quite good though many were smaller than I like since crop load was heavy this year. Some pruning methods are going to be experimented with as thinning is not very practical since it's hard to see the fruit until it's pretty large. I noticed a variation on the pronunciation of the word "feijoa" and asked about that. It was originally named for a Brazilian botanist and I've recorded this short audio with the pronunciation: www.correiafarms.com/Feijoa.amr (plays in Quicktime)

I found some sources, including GRIN that lists Feijoa sellowiana and Acca sellowiana as synonyms. Feijoa sellowiana information from NPGS/GRIN

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venturabananas

Harvey, I look forward to hearing the results of your taste testing.

Regarding synonyms of scientific names, there can only be one accepted scientific name. In this case it is Acca sellowiana. Feijoa is considered a synonym of the correct name. You couldn't use that name Feijoa sellowiana in a scientific paper, for example. You may already know this.

Synonym (taxonomy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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harveyc

Mark, I had looked at Wikipedia for some reference to the naming of the genus as Acca but could find none. GRIN is often more scientific than Wikipedia and I find it strange that they list both. In one cultivar no longer in a collection they did note that they changed the genus name to Acca (believe it was 2007 even though I thought the change was supposedly much earlier), but they didn't show such a change for others. I did quite a bit of searching and there are still some papers that scientific in character that use Feijoa. Seems that not everyone is on board....

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harveyc

I don't give up easily, still trying to figure this out. I read at Botanical Nomenclature to get an idea where to look further and ended up searching the International Plant Names Index. I searched the family Myrtaceae and came up with the following listings which seems to indicate both genus names are in use.

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venturabananas

Most scientists, like most people, are reluctant to let go of the tried and true. This is the case for scientific names, too. And scientists don't always agree on whether a name should be changed (by the standard rules of scientific nomenclature). As an example of name changes, a large marine snail, the wavy turban snail, has had three scientific names in the time I've been a marine biologist (Astraea undosa, Lithopoma undosum, Megastraea undosa). If you were to look up the species in an older book, you'd see it referred to by one of the older names.

From what I can tell, Acca sellowiana, is the accepted scientific name, though maybe some people are reluctant to accept it or the name just hasn't been updated in the reference you are viewing.

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Richard

I have many customers who are immigrants from the Philippines. They have told me that the common name of Acca sellowiana is Feijoa in their country!

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harveyc

Most people I know who are enthusiasts of the fruit use feijoa as the common name as well, including CRFG president Margaret Frane, Glen Woodmansee (both of Santa Monica), George Emerich (Fallbrook), Mark Albert (Ukiah).

I asked some very knowledgeable friends about this last night and they both agree that Acca is the new accepted genus but that it does not appear to be completely accepted. That's pretty common with most things, though. One friend commented that the Carica genus was changed for everything except papaya but everybody still uses Carica for all of them.

I had stumbled across somewhere the source of the name Acca (but spelled something like Akka) but don't remember what that was at the moment. I'm of Portuguese descent so I like Feijoa/feijoa but I know what folks mean when they use either.

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