Palm Lovers' Talk - A place to talk Palms! - Page 5

Dalmatiansoap · 06-05-2009, 04:08 PM

Thats baby I would like to prune!

ArchAngeL01 · 06-06-2009, 10:18 PM

i planted my red leaf based pindo in the ground today along with the sylvestris, im fixin to get the naners in and a few more palms . good luck lil guys!!!

musaboru · 06-13-2009, 01:34 AM

Here are some very bad pics I took of some very gigantic Washingtonias in Los Angeles (under June Gloom).

And this is probably as exotic as it gets here in regards to city plantings here in So Cal, Triangle palm. (Santa Monica)

lorax · 06-13-2009, 10:55 AM

OK, Tog, as promised, here's the shorty Geonoma I was talking about, very similar to your little palms, and also some of the taller palms that are used for timber. These photos are all from Moravia, Pastaza province - it's a very moist and palm-rich area.

Iriartea deltoidea - Pambil Macho. This is a seedling; as they get older, they acquire double-fronding which makes them ideal thatching palms. The fruits are also edible, and since the tree is a fast grower it's also used as timber, primarily for the stilts that traditional homes are elevated upon...

Geonoma spp - this is a timber palm also called Pambil.

Geonoma spp - this is the smallest one, which we were talking about earlier, Tog. You have something incredibly similar in your forests.

Tog Tan · 06-13-2009, 11:04 AM

Thanks for the pix Beth. I think the tiny one is the Geonoma longevaginata, I have a couple of them sprouted from 100+ sds. I also have a couple of the Iriartea deltoidea.

Pix #2 is interesting. Looks like it is still retaining it's juvenile bifid leaves. Very nice. Mucho Gracias!

Your streamside looks like home here!

Do you get leeches especially in the rains? Big ones? We have the huge tiger striped buffalo leech here which gets a couple of inches long and fatter than the thumb when fed.

lorax · 06-13-2009, 11:15 AM

Yeah, we get these 2-inch long fatties with yellow stripes, as well as the garden-variety little black ones. Whee! I didn't find any in that water, though; it's too fast-flowing. However, on that same hike I went in over my knee in the mud and came out with a couple of beauties.

Is your I. deltoidea developing mature fronds yet?

Tog Tan · 06-13-2009, 11:24 AM

The Iriartea deltoidea starts fast from germination but is slow in growth. They are still very small.

Is that the matured leaf of the Pambil? Looks interesting. As far as I know, there aren't many Geonoma with matured bifid leaves. I can't ID it...

lorax · 06-13-2009, 12:35 PM

That's a mature leaf for the Pambil Chico (the Geonoma) in my pic. My "Useful Plants" book tells me that since I found it in Pastaza, it's likely to be the endemic Geonoma triglochin or else I'm right off and it's Chamaeodora pauciflora. It's just a great deal taller than the Chamaeodoras I'm used to.

Mature Pambil Macho (I. deltoidea) look like the tree below (thank you to Pacsoa for the photos; the trees are usually so tall that you don't see this in the forest.)

Mature frond

This is how they poke up above the canopy. But try to get far enough away from a set of woods here to get a photo like this! These people most likely used an airplane.

Patty in Wisc · 06-17-2009, 07:42 PM

Thanks for those beautiful pics gang!
I have a Canary Island date palm & a washingtonia (I think) fan palm that I bought in TX 10 years ago. I also have 2 pygmy date palms & 2 sable's I grew from seed and a sago palm. I was into palms before citrus & nanas!
The first 2 are very healthy & BIG now..in 30 gal pots. They stay in sunroom winters & get carted out on deck for summer. Every 2-3 yrs, I root prune & they go back in same pots so that keeps the size down. The CIDP is 6ft high from soil & fronds are 5 ft long. I love my palms!
That big Bismark posted by Sterling made me drool.

ArchAngeL01 · 06-23-2009, 12:20 AM

please keep this thread going are friend tog tan that recently passed away started it because his love for palms i got pheonix reclinata and pheonix canariensis the last couple days. i love egyption palms like the reclinata,i also got a "palm" today but learned it wasnt a true palm ,it's a pananma hat palm related to the screwpine dangit it tricked me! lol its ok i like it

musaboru · 06-23-2009, 04:03 AM

Phoenix palms are pretty awesome. But I often see the trunks butchered up so bad from trimming, it drives me crazy. Just leave it alone peeps!

ArchAngeL01 · 06-23-2009, 12:56 PM

your right i like the pheonix to have a 3:00 and 9:00 (like on a whatch ) cut, anything that has a higher trim looks like a stick with grass on top lol or a skimpy giant pineapple LOL

ArchAngeL01 · 07-06-2009, 03:41 PM

got a variegated sago palm yesterday very rare ................all mine (not a palm a cycad)

Jack Daw · 07-06-2009, 03:59 PM

Talking about nice Phoenix palms...

PACSOA - Phoenix canariensis variegated

Well, in 50 years or so, we will be subtropic too, so until then.

ArchAngeL01 · 07-07-2009, 11:22 PM

i dont get it but anyway, i saw that b4 its so amazing

ArchAngeL01 · 07-07-2009, 11:23 PM

o i get it LOL!! sorry if im slow

Jack Daw · 07-08-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchAngeL01

o i get it LOL!! sorry if im slow

Not at all, it's that global whopal thing.

Yup, going for zone 9 in 75 years or so.

And current zones 9 to 10 or 11.
I just wander, what temps will there be in India when the time comes and the ices melt down completely (also the Antarctica)

lorax · 07-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Arcangel, you got a Toquilla? Let me know how it grows for you - they're weeds for me.

ArchAngeL01 · 07-08-2009, 01:33 PM

i got a refund out of it i wanted my 5$ back LOL!!!

Jeff · 07-19-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorax

That's a mature leaf for the Pambil Chico (the Geonoma) in my pic. My "Useful Plants" book tells me that since I found it in Pastaza, it's likely to be the endemic Geonoma triglochin or else I'm right off and it's Chamaeodora pauciflora. It's just a great deal taller than the Chamaeodoras I'm used to.

Mature Pambil Macho (I. deltoidea) look like the tree below (thank you to Pacsoa for the photos; the trees are usually so tall that you don't see this in the forest.)

Mature frond

This is how they poke up above the canopy. But try to get far enough away from a set of woods here to get a photo like this! These people most likely used an airplane.

I was reading this thread for the first time and came upon these photos and I thought to myself "how did my photos get here?". I originally posted these photos on PalmTalk.org a couple years ago and I forgot that PACSOA had contacted me for permission to use them. I photographed these near the Arenal Volcano in Costa Rica in August 2007.

Lorax, I was actually standing on the ground when I took that photo of the tall one! It was right at the edge of the forest. That's the base of the volcano rising up behind it.

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