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05-19-2009, 10:19 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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i use to live in zone 6 ,zone 6=rotten palm tree the leaves on my trachycarpus stayed green but the bud rotted everytime i replaced it ............even a large one and the pindo palm stayed green but it's bud was fried ...good thing i moved to the beach !!!!!
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im scared to risk it afterall it did take many years to find it! ill post a pic brb
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where u looking for a green one or silver because the one u have picture is a green one it wont turn silver with age the silver type starts out kind of a purplish color and turns silver around 2-3 years old when it starts putting out full leaves or fonds
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its a green one for sure the silver on it is just that powder if u tke your finger and rub on it that will rub off
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this is a young silver bismarck the brown on the edges is from freezing this tree froze pretty hard about 28 degrees over night but didnt hurt it that bad just turned the tips alittle redish color
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it does http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/...bccdcd.jpg?v=0 heres a green one and anuther Bismarckia nobilis - Bismarck Palm (Green Form) : Grows on You
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your is young yet it will have a darker color and the ones in that picture have been out side in full sun many years thats why there real light colored green heres a picture of a adult silver
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what about the stems on the green form? there exstreamly silver on mine ,are they silver on the green form? heres a pic of mine in lite
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that is 100% green form of bismarckia a very nice looking one at that
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John- re your 'rant'. Not sure what your point is. We shouldn't push zones on our fav trop and semi-trop plants? I have always wondered how they originally came up with the -20F figure for Needle palms; must have been someone way past zone 6 who noted this. Now if you are saying to plant a palm and then not try to provide winter protection, I agree. That's treating it as an annual, a very expensive annual, and I hate to see a palm sacrificed in this way. But I see nothing wrong with us zone-pushers trying to get some of our favorite plants to survive and, nay indeed flourish in our cooler areas. Just my little rant reply.
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My rant was to elicit replies (of course, I knew they would come). It is amazing to me how far we may push zones to get the tropical look. I am lucky. I live in an area where most things grow. Winters are too cold, however, for tropical plants, and yet I push 1 (and only 1) zone for some plants that may make it. They have to be placed in areas that do not get the brunt of the cold and wind. I see how the effort to preserve bananas in colder areas that many folks (including you) live in and am again amazed on the amount of work you do. But when it comes to extreme pushing, ir just becomes silly. For example, the recent discussion regarding the Bismarckia nobilis. This is a very large palm that throws a deep taproot and grows very fast. It prefers hot dry weather. It is marginal here because of the winters which get into the mid-to high 20s on occasion. The Bismarckia cannot thrive in a pot. Transplant shock for it is extremely hard on it and many die as the roots are extremely sensitive. It will be stunted and struggle and eventually die and never ever look good. Any zone lower than 9a is truly not appropriate during summer as well as it requires heat for growth. The Lipstick Palm (we cannot grow this in CA anywhere) is as doomed as doomed can be. High humidity and warm temps (never ever under 50 and only for a short time). Indoors will kill it as it too dry and usually too dark. If one is available, it would be aseedling and be expensive. It travels poorly as well. There are some substitutes of course, but both you and I know it is not the same. To have plants that cannot survive (as opposed to may survive) is a waste of time and money and all that remains are bad memories.
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John, tell me about it! I had enough of trying to keep the Slipper Orchids, Paphiopedilum, alive even though they are from my region. Ah, yes, had a hand in Tulips too. Really bad memories...
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Hey Just J, I have no problem with having palms, such as your beautiful Bismarck) that are outside during the season then moved into the house for the winter. My living room,and basement are crammed full each fall to spring with just such plants. I do agree with John, however, about trying to keep these plants that are many zones away from home outside during the winter, no matter what protection we try. I wouldn't dare try to plant a Bismarck, a Queen, or a date palm in my yard at then hope that my mulching, wrapping, etc. will get them through the winter. It's just not fair to the plant. You seem to have success with your indoor/outdoor methods, and I agree they look great.
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