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Olafhenny 05-20-2012 10:37 PM

My brand new "tropical" planter
 
I have just today finished planting the last additions to my brand new “tropical” planter.
In its former live it was a small pool, though deep enough (27 inches) for survival of the waterlilies
in it. I filled it up completely with some low grade compost and good top soil. Now it is a rather
large planter.

Since we had rather dry weather the last few days, some of the plants suffered wind burn,
following the relocation from the protective indoor environment to the dry outside air. Notably the
Canna Australia in the NW corner (north is ‘up’ in this picture, just as in maps) and the Ornatas.





This image gives an overall view of the planter




This photo shows an inventory of all the plants in it as of today, It will probably remain essentially
the same throughout the summer, though I expect some vigorous growth to take place soon. :)


The inventory as of today:

1. A two year old Basjoo pup, separated fron the mother only yesterday. I wish it luck!
2. A couple of Ornatas, still linked by a common corm
3. Cannas Australia
4. Yucca Filamentosa
5. Costus Woodsonii
6. Dracena Red Star Spike
7. Dracena Compacta
8. Dipladenia Rio Pink
9. Rubber plants
10. Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos'
11. Ricinus Carmencita
12. Petunia
13. Coleus
14. Wandering Jew




Tim MA z6 05-21-2012 06:28 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Nice planter. What's the shrub to the right which is outside the planter?

TommyMacLuckie 05-21-2012 08:08 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Eh, from the looks of it, that's not a Philodendron, it's Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos', commonly used in hanging baskets.

There's a petunia behind the Wandering Jew?

oakshadows 05-21-2012 08:45 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Nice looking, it should fill in and look great in a hurry. We try to put a mint plant around as many of our plants as possible, good for flavoring tea and also helps repel unwanted bugs. Smells great when it gets stepped on. Thanks

Olafhenny 05-21-2012 10:21 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Thank you , Tim, the plant outside the planter is a black lace elder (Sambucus Nigra Eva)

It will come out in a month or so, after the bloom, I planted it to screen the compost behind it,
but the compost causes this already fast growing shrub to grow explosively. I just cannot keep it
under control :(

Tommy, when I bought it it was just "safely" labelled Tropical Plant. It looked like a
philodendron to me, but I cannot be sure. I will later today either post a blow-up of the
original photo or take a new one, and then you can tell me for sure, but meanwhile thanks.
There is nothing between the wandering jew (which I promptly forgot to list:)) and the
concrete edging.

Thank you, Noah, I have an emotional attachment to mint. I used to collect it from a
pond/swampy place, when and where I grew up, and dry it for tea, but here in this yard, which
also includes the edge of a large pond, I found it extremely invasive. You just leave an inch
long piece of it in the ground, and you have another infestation. I had a devil of a time to
get rid of it.

Best to all,
Olaf




Olafhenny 05-21-2012 12:54 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Hi again, Tommy, I know now, what you were driving at. I had numbered the wandering jew
with 12 and then carried on giving the same number to the petunia. I have now corrected it and given
the WJ the number 14.





This is a brand new picture of the Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos' (?). Please verify

Some of its leaves are also suffering from wind burn and it is not for lack of water, but a
problem of adaptation to the dry outdoor air and wind.

...and thanks for the correction
Olaf




oakshadows 05-21-2012 02:23 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Mint does well in containers also. We put window screening in the bottom so roots don't escape and critters stay out. Enjoy your labor.

Olafhenny 05-21-2012 05:28 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Yes, Noah, a container is where mint IMOEO belongs, just don't let it get out of there, if you have
any naturally moist area, or a well irrigated one nearby. :)




Olafhenny 05-21-2012 05:45 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyMacLuckie (Post 195308)
Eh, from the looks of it, that's not a Philodendron, it's Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos', commonly used in hanging baskets.

There's a petunia behind the Wandering Jew?

Well, Tommy, as a vigorous defense, I am tickled to find out, that Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos'
and Pilodendron both belong to the family of Araceae. So at least I did not call a crocodile 'horse', just
by the name of another reptile :)

But thanks again for setting me right :)

Olaf




palmtree 05-22-2012 12:07 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Looks great! Cant wait to see it all fill up!
I think your wandering jew plant is a Purple Heart. They are very close relatives but Purple Hearts are much more cold tolerant (zone 8). Mine survived the winter in the ground here this year, I was very happy to see it come back up! They die back to the roots when temperatures get below the mid 20s.
Keep us updated! Should look very tropical soon!

Olafhenny 05-22-2012 01:15 AM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Hi Alex,

the wiki defines it as follows:

QUOTE
Three species of the spiderwort plant are known as "Wandering Jew":

Tradescantia fluminensis,

a shade-tolerant, easily regenerating invasive plant having small green
leaves and white
flowers, a South American native.
Tradescantia pallida,
a plant bearing purple leaves, with white, pink or purple flowers;
Tradescantia zebrina,
a type distinguished by leaves that feature a distinct lengthwise zebra stripe pattern of white and green.
Also, (blue) Wandering Jew, Commelina cyanea, a native Australian plant, common from Victoria to
Queensland.
UNQUOTE

It is true, that mine looks very much like the Tradescandia Pallida, but whatever mine is, it does
come nowhere near the hardiness to -12^C, which Dave's Garden ascribes to the TP.

I have been raising those guys now since 6 or 8 years. Every fall after the first light frost I go out
and take some cuttings, which I stick into a jar of water, where they soon grow some roots. Then
I plant them into pots, where the soon are ready for another clipping and I stick the cuttings again
into water. By spring I have oodles of plants to plant outside.

But they always freeze well before the temperature drops to -5^C.

Best,
Olaf




palmtree 05-22-2012 03:06 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 195438)
Hi Alex,

the wiki defines it as follows:

QUOTE
Three species of the spiderwort plant are known as "Wandering Jew":

Tradescantia fluminensis,

a shade-tolerant, easily regenerating invasive plant having small green
leaves and white
flowers, a South American native.
Tradescantia pallida,
a plant bearing purple leaves, with white, pink or purple flowers;
Tradescantia zebrina,
a type distinguished by leaves that feature a distinct lengthwise zebra stripe pattern of white and green.
Also, (blue) Wandering Jew, Commelina cyanea, a native Australian plant, common from Victoria to
Queensland.
UNQUOTE

It is true, that mine looks very much like the Tradescandia Pallida, but whatever mine is, it does
come nowhere near the hardiness to -12^C, which Dave's Garden ascribes to the TP.

I have been raising those guys now since 6 or 8 years. Every fall after the first light frost I go out
and take some cuttings, which I stick into a jar of water, where they soon grow some roots. Then
I plant them into pots, where the soon are ready for another clipping and I stick the cuttings again
into water. By spring I have oodles of plants to plant outside.

But they always freeze well before the temperature drops to -5^C.

Best,
Olaf




Thanks for the info. SomeTradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart' may be hardier than others. I also grow a lot of them as cuttings, they are really easy to root!
Here is a pic of mine in early May coming back from winter. It has grown a lot since then. I think they are my favorite groundcovers, even if they werent cold tolerant enough to survive the winter here!
Uploaded from the Photobucket iPhone App

Good luck!

Olafhenny 05-22-2012 06:44 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 




When these two bananas were moved out, it naturally left a gap in our living room so
what I did was, take the plastic inserts out of the baskets and stored them away…






…flipped the baskets upside down, placed the catch trays on top, fashioned a flower stand out of
a tomato cage, affixed a few pots with annuals in them and –viola- gap filled.




This fall I will probably reverse it all, put the flower stand in storage and have some
small bananas there for the winter again. :)





john_ny 05-29-2012 08:20 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
This may be an obsolete name, but I have always known the "Purple Heart" as Setcresia purpurea.

Olafhenny 05-29-2012 10:06 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
It seems, that some things go by multiple names. (You should hear all the ones I have been called.:)).

I just googled "setcreasea purpurea"

Here is what I got: Tradescantia pallida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Tradescantia_pallida
There is some controversy regarding the correct scientific name for this plant species, with certain
authorities continuing to refer to it as Setcreasea purpurea or ...





TommyMacLuckie 06-03-2012 06:03 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 195372)

Well, Tommy, as a vigorous defense, I am tickled to find out, that Epipremnum aureum 'Golden Pothos'
and Pilodendron both belong to the family of Araceae. So at least I did not call a crocodile 'horse', just
by the name of another reptile :)

But thanks again for setting me right :)

Olaf

HA HA HA HA! Yeah well, there are a lot of things that are in same families! A good one is Hosta - it's in the Agave family... Look at a Hosta and consider that. Some people hear that and go 'Ohhh, OK.' And don't even bother to consider it.

Others are gingers, Traveller's palm, Heliconia and the birds of paradise are all in the... banana family.

Here's a good one for you - "Split leaf Philodendron" is not a philodendron at all, it's Monstera deliciosa, a VINE!

There are a lot of plants that have erroneous names. Mexican petunia is in fact from Asia and is not a petunia. There are tons of plants with names that make zero sense.

The Golden Pothos is a dime-a-dozen hanging basket plant in the United States that gets burned in any way possible. It needs absolutely zero sunlight to be as green as possible.

Anyway, I love learning things. It's the best reason why the Latin names mean everything, because common names can be used for a lot of different plants. For example, there is more than one kind of 'Bamboo palm'. The Latin tells you EXACTLY what it is.

Enjoy your garden!

Olafhenny 06-03-2012 06:31 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Hi Tommy,
Now you are telling me, after I have already surgically removed a couple of severely singed
leaves from the Golden Photos :( :)…

…and after I have been looking high and low for something to keep the north side of our house green.

But thank you very much for a most instructive post!

You may be interested to know, that so far the most successful specimen to grace that darkest
spot in our yard is a Nanking Cherry (Prunus Tomentosa), which originates in a mountain range
in China with high UV exposure. - Go figure

More on this story here:
http://www.bananas.org/f8/please-hel...rub-15298.html

Thanks again for you post, which I will file away. It justifies the reason, why I joined ‘bananas’:
To learn!

Olaf




saltydad 06-03-2012 11:10 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
My neighbor has a S. nigra Eva. Beautiful shrub. He gives it a very hard pruning each spring after its done blooming. I'd love to have one; just have to figure out what to pull first. Nice looking garden. When you said it used to be a pool, I first expected a bog garden, which is one of my future projects. Good luck with it, and keep us pictorially updated.

TommyMacLuckie 06-05-2012 10:59 PM

Re: My brand new "tropical" planter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 196153)
It seems, that some things go by multiple names. (You should hear all the ones I have been called.:)).

I just googled "setcreasea purpurea"

Here is what I got: Tradescantia pallida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Tradescantia_pallida
There is some controversy regarding the correct scientific name for this plant species, with certain
authorities continuing to refer to it as Setcreasea purpurea or ...

Recent literature that I have does not include 'Purple Heart' as 'Wandering Jew', with the Latin being something else.

Sot of like 'Cocos plumosa', which is incorrect now, for a Queen palm. It's just one of those stupid things people hang on to saying, like PIN number, ATM machine and hot water heater...

Olafhenny 07-10-2012 12:27 AM

My "tropical" planter seven weeks later
 
This is how it looks today:

As you can see, I had to make a few changes. The Dracena Compacta in the SW (lower left)
corner had to be moved to a shadier location and was replaced by a Castor Bean (Ricinus communis)
'New Zealand Purple' and a mandevilla Also most of the tropical plants, which I bought locally and
which were sold for indoors had a tough time with the sun.

I also removed the large Sambucus 'Eva', which intruded on the planter in the original pictures.
It was simply getting too huge, fed with run-off from the compost, it was designated to screen
from view. It was a beautiful plant, but I could not control its growth. I had planted another
one at a different location at the same time and it behaves much more modestly. :)





You can see in this picture, that the cannas absolutely love the 27’ deep top soil and compost
combination, but the bananas are rather ‘cool’ toward it. Actually the “compost is of rather
poor quality, compared with mine, but I did not have enough so I bought it from the city recycling
plant.





In front of the now blooming yucca plant is a Rhizinus Carmencita (#11 in the below photo). Its
seed pods are bright red as opposed to the ‘New Zealand” which supposedly had purple pods. This
is my first time, so I am not sure. The seeds of both varieties are very different.





The SW corner of the planter in close-up.






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