Monsanto's GMO corn linked to organ failure - Page 2

harveyc · 01-25-2010, 06:25 PM

Still waiting on my first Tango!

r3tic · 01-25-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by damaclese

i hate to contradict any one but Monsanto is already in bad state with the FDA after there escaped seed landed in over 100,000 test samples in 1998 and 1999 this particular seed was of the type that produces its own insecticide and is only rated for live stock feed in those same years of 98 and 99 100,000,000 million $ US of corn was ordered destroyed and to this day there are at least 4 to 5 samples of this GM corn showing up out in the natural farm environments do to cross pollination Monsanto was hit with the largest fine ever leveed on a US corporation they are still paying Quarterly payments to the FDA and will be for the next 20 years this is all a mater of public record and there was a nice documentary on it on the history Chanel 2 weeks ago I'm sure it apiaries that Monsanto is in bed with the government but if you brig there name up to any FDA inspector you will see his or heres face turn red they hate Monsanto and the only reason Monsanto was not forced out of the US market was by a court saving maneuver on Monsanto's part or they would be completely out of business here so much so that now the FDA has posted full time inspectors at all of Monsanto's Labs and facilities if Monsanto so much as sneezes they will by the Judges own statement see a plague come down apron there head such as no US corp has ever seen end quote he also ordered the head of the distribution as well as several other key Monsanto people to be remanded over for trial i do not know the out come of thees trials

Do you have any additional information on this. I can't seem to locate anything on it.

Thanks

Richard · 01-25-2010, 07:15 PM

I'm going to watch something else -- seen this sci-fi "B" movie too many times.

LilRaverBoi · 01-26-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

I'm sure for some people that this finding about Monsanto's GMO corn means that all GMO foods are bad for you, including all the seedless Tangerines and thornless blackberries you've ever eaten.

I agree that some individuals may carry such a finding in such a way, but I assure you this is not a logical scientific conclusion in the LEAST. No doubt you agree.

jeffreyp · 01-26-2010, 02:30 AM

seedless citrus? It was my understanding seedless citrus came about by irradiating them or through mutations not gmo.

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Pauly, the evidence is overwhelming that Monsanto and our government are in bed together. Obama appointed Michael Taylor as our food czar. What more does one need to know? It's over, the fat lady is singing.

Jeffrey Smith: You're Appointing Who? Please Obama, Say It's Not So!

Monsanto’s man Taylor returns to FDA in food-czar role | Grist

Will Obama's new Food Czar end organic farming?

A little history of collusion.
US Goverment - Monsanto Collusion Reported -- Item #10029

And the icing on the cake.
Monsanto Today ~ Forbes Magazine Names Monsanto Company of the Year

hey i hear ya I'm not disagreeing completely but the facts of there near demise in 2000 are a mater of public record the appointment mite be Monsanto's attempt to recover from there tragic poisoning of the corn supply's and i think Obama should know better but the main stream Medea well as usual ignore all the pertinent facts and let the American People stay ignorant there easer to control that way its all so Orwellian don't you think

im beginning to think that there mite not be a way to fix any of this stuff i think we may have lost to the Corp in that case the USA is soon to become a there'd world country with controlled and ignorant folk weirs then now
well we can all go to MEXCO wouldin't that be a hoot if all theas amaricans started imagrating they wouldint know what to do its sapose to be the othere way around

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by r3tic

Do you have any additional information on this. I can't seem to locate anything on it.

Thanks

i first learnd of it in a documentary on the history Chanel on GM food they talked extensively about it i saw the show 2 or 3 weeks ago i think it was "Modern Marvels" but I'm not sure

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

I'm sure for some people that this finding about Monsanto's GMO corn means that all GMO foods are bad for you, including all the seedless Tangerines and thornless blackberries you've ever eaten.

Richard i dont know on which side of this you are on But GM food is so bad that out side the USA there are hardly any Countrys that alow it and becaus of this are food exsports are shrinking no one wants are GM food so its really not good for busness they just havint figured that out yet the European unoin will not let it in that 14 countrys or so that wont buy are food and theas are the richesed ones we need there busness why do we have to alwas debat what is in my mine a no brainer if its not natural its probly not good for us history teaches us that Humin Bings as good as we are at building things suck at Creation somthing alwas gose wrong! im begining to think that we are tuely lost its a good thing im old and wont have to live with this much longer it feels like Hell to me

harveyc · 01-26-2010, 09:56 AM

Pauly, USA farmers do not face any big problems exporting their GMO crops. I've grown GMO corn and global supplies of corn (all types) are what drive exports. When I've sold corn to a grain broker they don't even ask if it's GMO or not, though that's been a few years since I've been growing alfalfa since then (GMO and conventional).

I once read an article that reported that majority of sobyeans used in Italy were GMO. This is pretty lengthy, but it does say that most of the soybeans used there are from USA and Argenta where GMO crops are allowed: http://www.dista.unibo.it/doubleheli...%20627-633.pdf. That same paper also says that any risks with GMO crops that may exist is greatly reduced after it is utilized as feed. Here the Italian Welfare and Health Minister had suggesting lifting the ban in 2008 Italy should lift GM ban - health minister - Forbes.com.

I personally try to avoid eating foods that I know have been genetically modified but don't worry about eating meat that has been produced using GMO feed (more concerned with hormones, actually). I recently was surprised to learn something like 95% of the sugar beets grown in the USA last year were Roundup Ready beets so I've checked a few times and have made a conscious effort to buy cane sugar instead. I do buy many organic food items as is since I'm also trying to avoid using high fructose corn syrup and that's ending up in just about everything, but that's getting off subject and I'll leave it up to Bob or Beth to further derail.

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

Pauly, USA farmers do not face any big problems exporting their GMO crops. I've grown GMO corn and global supplies of corn (all types) are what drive exports. When I've sold corn to a grain broker they don't even ask if it's GMO or not, though that's been a few years since I've been growing alfalfa since then (GMO and conventional).

I once read an article that reported that majority of sobyeans used in Italy were GMO. This is pretty lengthy, but it does say that most of the soybeans used there are from USA and Argenta where GMO crops are allowed: http://www.dista.unibo.it/doubleheli...%20627-633.pdf. That same paper also says that any risks with GMO crops that may exist is greatly reduced after it is utilized as feed. Here the Italian Welfare and Health Minister had suggesting lifting the ban in 2008 Italy should lift GM ban - health minister - Forbes.com.

I personally try to avoid eating foods that I know have been genetically modified but don't worry about eating meat that has been produced using GMO feed (more concerned with hormones, actually). I recently was surprised to learn something like 95% of the sugar beets grown in the USA last year were Roundup Ready beets so I've checked a few times and have made a conscious effort to buy cane sugar instead. I do buy many organic food items as is since I'm also trying to avoid using high fructose corn syrup and that's ending up in just about everything, but that's getting off subject and I'll leave it up to Bob or Beth to further derail.

Harvy this same documetary that i watched about Monsanto said that Gm foods are expressly ban in all European Union country's

djmb74 · 01-26-2010, 10:09 AM

Funny how you can argue for climate scientists theories but you think the FACT that a large corporation that pays off politicians and genetically modifies the largest food crops in the world unchecked is science fiction!

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Originally Posted by Richard

I'm going to watch something else -- seen this sci-fi "B" movie too many times.

harveyc · 01-26-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by damaclese

Harvy this same documetary that i watched about Monsanto said that Gm foods are expressly ban in all European Union country's

But I believe those laws are ignored about like how we ignore speed limit signs, though the UK might be an exception.

djmb74 · 01-26-2010, 10:23 AM

One thing I have noticed, not sure if this has to do with GM foods or probably just people's diet in general.

When I was growing up with my 3 brothers we had a lot of friends and hardly any of them had allergies, food allergies in particular. Now that I have 6 kids and they have all kinds of friends over, I am shocked at how many of them are allergic to something or another. My kids not at all, maybe its because we have always not had much processed food, no soda in the house or eat fast food at all. Also the amount of children that wear glasses now, its crazy. I remember in school there was only that one kid that got picked on with glasses now maybe a 3rd of the kids coming around have prescription glasses....

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 10:26 AM

harvy heres a link to a paper writen about the European unoins bans on GM foods

The European Union Skepticism towards Genetically Modified Food

heres a news artical posted on line about how The US is trying to get the European Unoin to revers its ban

U.S. Challenges European Ban on GM Food

this is just funny

harveyc · 01-26-2010, 10:33 AM

Pauly, I know the ban exists. It's addressed in the paper I linked above. They still import GMO soybeans and they know it.

You better watch out uploading that picture here on the org, someone sticking their tongue out can be deemed offensive, you know!

damaclese · 01-26-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

Pauly, I know the ban exists. It's addressed in the paper I linked above. They still import GMO soybeans and they know it.

You better watch out uploading that picture here on the org, someone sticking their tongue out can be deemed offensive, you know!

well you made me lafe for today thanks ;-P

lorax · 01-26-2010, 02:06 PM

I've been lurking with great humour on this debate for some time now. Pauly, thought you might like to know that GMO crops are banned under Ecuador's constitution, and that the ban is STRICTLY enforced.

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