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Old 03-02-2012, 04:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
 
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We just ate our first two loquats and man these things are TASTY!!!! Hard to describe the flavor. Maybe a little apricot/cherry/apple ish. These particular ones have the juicyness of a cherry. No tartness, sweet, but not sugar overload. Could sit under a tree and eat handfuls!

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The loquat here should be ready soon
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Just tasted the first loquat of the season, and it's GREAT. Also, a question: Do loquat seeds come true to type? My sister is trying to germinate some.
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Just tasted the first loquat of the season, and it's GREAT. Also, a question: Do loquat seeds come true to type? My sister is trying to germinate some.
Yes, some of the trees I drive by in the San Fernando Valley are loaded with ripe fruit. They are tasty. My plant better make fruit next year or it's future is in jeopardy!

From what I've read, no, seeds do not come true to type. That's why popular varieties like Big Jim, etc., are grafted.
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Where do I get Big Jim budwood or scion?

What is the difference in a scion and budwood?
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From someone with a Big Jim tree. Generally not sold online or in stores because (a) its perishable and (b) most consumers find it easier and cheaper (money plus labor) to purchase a grafted plant.
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Well we harvested all the fruit off our loquat last week. It seemed that the fruit stopped getting any more ripe, and instead started to have splits. I would usually associate split fruit with over watering, but we did notice some mealy bugs had spread from our pomegranete trees so idk if they would have any effect. Either way here is what we harvested.

The big pile we ate(YUM!!) the little pile i just split out the seeds to dry just for fun.(i know they do not grow true to seed). Without the fruit, we now have the plant outdoors full time. Still very close tucked up to the house for a little bit of protection but the weather has been so mild lately! I think it'll be an early summer.

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Wow, lucky you! Loquats are one of my favorite fruits. Here in California, we get tons of them, and they're even bigger than those. I wonder how growing them inside affected their taste.
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Took me a while, but here's a photo of it. It's about 8' to the tops of the tallest leaves. Had this Big Jim loquat for about 2 years. Great grower, just no blooms or fruit yet.

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This is a pretty typical leaf:
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This leaf is one of the biggest on the tree, and a newish one.
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So, what do the you think Richard? Correctly labelled cultivar or not?
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It appears to be the correct species of Loquat to produce fruit. The non-fruiting ornamental species is different in several respects.

If it was a grafted variety, it should have fruited by now. I think you are growing a seedling -- perhaps the rootstock of a grafted tree that somehow lost the fruit stock at the retail nursery. That can happen at chain stores and big box stores: the ground crew sees a damaged plant, "cleans it up", and puts the tag back on. If the plant had a tag from a major grower like La Verne then that's probably what happened. Then there are some small unscrupulous suppliers who will grow from seed and name them after the parent.

It's a beautiful healthy plant.
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It appears to be the correct species of Loquat to produce fruit. The non-fruiting ornamental species is different in several respects.

If it was a grafted variety, it should have fruited by now. I think you are growing a seedling -- perhaps the rootstock of a grafted tree that somehow lost the fruit stock at the retail nursery. That can happen at chain stores and big box stores: the ground crew sees a damaged plant, "cleans it up", and puts the tag back on. If the plant had a tag from a major grower like La Verne then that's probably what happened. Then there are some small unscrupulous suppliers who will grow from seed and name them after the parent.

It's a beautiful healthy plant.
That's what I was thinking a seedling. My tree fruited at 4' first year from Lowe's. Might be time to graft ?
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If it was a grafted variety, it should have fruited by now. I think you are growing a seedling -- perhaps the rootstock of a grafted tree that somehow lost the fruit stock at the retail nursery. That can happen at chain stores and big box stores: the ground crew sees a damaged plant, "cleans it up", and puts the tag back on. If the plant had a tag from a major grower like La Verne then that's probably what happened. Then there are some small unscrupulous suppliers who will grow from seed and name them after the parent.

It's a beautiful healthy plant.
Yes, it is definitely the fruiting species and not the other species, of which there are some in my neighborhood. They are very distinct in appearance.

I bought it at a our reputable local nursery, Green Thumb. It was from La Verne, if I recall correctly. La Verne is only about 30 miles from us. It was supposed to be grafted and looked (and looks) like it was successfully grafted.

I wonder if it is a climate thing. None of the loquat trees the size of mine or smaller in my neighborhood either flower or fruit. Only the bigger ones do.

On a different note, are some of the loquat cultivars smaller than the others? I've seen some massive ones, including Big Jim. And how do they handle heavy pruning? Looks like I'm going to have to do that to mine to keep it a manageable height.
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Big Jim refers to the size of the fruit. Note that fruit is born on green and semi-hardwood shoots, so removing new growth is a sure way to not get a harvest.

The shape of your tree looks normal for its age. A typical footprint for an unpruned loquat is 12 x 12 feet with a height of 16 to 24 feet. This is a "narrow" form compared to an unpruned pit fruit tree. For Loquat, if you want a smaller foot print it is easy to obtain by thinning adventurous side branches and letting verticals continue. One of our friends has 20 year-old Loquat kept to a compact form of 8' x 8' and 9' high. For the height, I would let the plant go to 10' or 12', then thin some of the verticals so the overall height is 8', and then every other year or so again thin the verticals to bring the height back to desired level.

I think you should feed your plant a "bloom and fruit" supplement in the late summer; e.g., September. The potassium phosphite you have would be a good choice.
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Whats the main difference between fruiting and ornamental typ?
Well thats beside the other one doesnt beare a fruit
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Well thats beside the other one doesnt beare a fruit
Eriobotrya japonica (fruiting) vs. Eriobotry deflexa (non-fruiting ornamental). That link that Sunfish posted shows E. deflexa nicely. It's a very attractive tree, just useless in the sense of not producing fruit -- which makes it about the same as my E. japonica so far!
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The shape of your tree looks normal for its age. A typical footprint for an unpruned loquat is 12 x 12 feet with a height of 16 to 24 feet. This is a "narrow" form compared to an unpruned pit fruit tree. For Loquat, if you want a smaller foot print it is easy to obtain by thinning adventurous side branches and letting verticals continue. One of our friends has 20 year-old Loquat kept to a compact form of 8' x 8' and 9' high. For the height, I would let the plant go to 10' or 12', then thin some of the verticals so the overall height is 8', and then every other year or so again thin the verticals to bring the height back to desired level.

I think you should feed your plant a "bloom and fruit" supplement in the late summer; e.g., September. The potassium phosphite you have would be a good choice.
Thanks for the advice Richard. So far, it seems like my loquat is constantly going through cycles of putting out new growth, so I take it that I would just need to avoid pruning off the last round of new growth right before flowering in Fall. Does that sound right, to avoid reducing the (potential) crop too much.
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So in general its better to avoid pruning at all?
Im pretty sure all nusery stock here are seedlings not grafted trees so what I have is "cat in the sack"
Whats the best way to graft a loqat?
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