caliboy1994

Thanks for the advice. But what I'm really getting at is how much space do they need in the ground. If I end up germinating extra papayas I'm probably just going to give them away. Problem is I don't have much space in my yard that's sheltered enough from the Santa Ana winds. I've already got a huge spot reserved for 1000 Fingers, and all of the other empty spots are next to other plants and are pretty small (one is around 3 ft by 3 ft). The east side of the yard is off limits because my dad wants to make it more of a foresty environment. I'll try to post some pics of the spots I'm looking at. By the way, how long do saved papaya seeds usually last?

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No closer than 6', 10' better. If you already have something shorter that likes partial shade, that's the best of both worlds, you can hammer them in between.
..and a 10'-15' tall tree-like plant isn't enough of a tree? Think of them more as a "temporary" type plant, they're fast growers but don't last all that long, Hawaiian varieties can be treated more like a 2-year event. (unlike their Mexican cousins that can get 20'+ tall & take a couple years to fruit.)
I'd expect fresh seed to maintain at least 80% viability at 2 years. It's not worth saving them any longer than that, with fresh seed being very easy to come by.

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caliboy1994

Thanks. But what I mean by "forest environment" is sort of like a pine forest environment. He planted redwoods and manzanitas on that side of the yard. There's a nice patch of grass there, but it only gets full sun a few hours a day. The rest of the time it's either partially or fully shaded.

Anyways, I guess my other spots are too small. Once we rearrange the yard a bit as planned, there will be a LOT more room. I guess I'll find a spot for it in this new room. Or maybe I could plant 1000 Fingers in that new spot (since it's relatively wind resistant) and plant the papaya where my 1000 fingers was going to be planted. Anyways, I'll find a way.

By the way, do papayas sucker from the base of the plant? I read somewhere that babacos do.

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caliboy1994

How much wind can they take? Santa Ana winds here can be 35-45 mph. We get gusts sometimes in excess of 60 mph. I do have a few sheltered spots in my yard, though.

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