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Old 02-03-2008, 08:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have the following plants for trade. If interested, I have photos of the actual plants available so that you can see exactly what you are getting.

I am really specifically only looking for one thing: a Congea vine (white, pink or purple) but will consider other plants as well

I do NOT trade plants to the following states (due to Agricultural laws):
CA, LA, TX, HI, AZ or Puerto Rico

I also do NOT sell plants (I am no longer running my nursery business and do not have a license anymore)

1. WHite tacca (bat plant)
2. Philodendron mamei
3. Philodendron gloriosum
4. Costus osae "Red Rose"
5. Clerodendron incisum "Musical NOtes"
6. Costus lazius "Yellow Lollipop"
7. Costus longbracteatum "KIss of Death" (rare)
8. Epiphyllum oxypetalum (Night blooming cereus, the real one)
9. Begonia luxurians (palmate, unusual)
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Darn! No Texas trades!
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, 'fraid not, due to Burrowing Nematode and IFA.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What is IFA?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Imported Fire Ant. The entire Southern tier of states from FL to parts of CA and up to the line of about the Carolinas is quarantines for IFA. You can only send plants from quarantines states to those states where its too cold for IFA to survive the winter (like, well, Indiana)
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Hey Gina,
What temps knock out the IFA?
Sorry I do not have anything to trade.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't exactly know a certain set temp, Taylor, but they survive in zone 7B (Dallas TX, Southern VA, the Carolinas) for certain, I am not sure how much above that they tolerate. Anywhere that the ground actually freezes hard in winter and there is long term snow/ice on the ground they can't make it, that's why they are a Southern/Western thing, although, for whatever reason, they do not like the soil in Nevada and many parts of Arizona. It has been hypothesized that, if they had not been "shipped" over state lines in infected plant/soil (commercially, and by traders), they might not have ever reached California due to the Nevada/Arizona 'barrier'. I believe I read somewhere that there are only two known colonies of IFA in Nevada and they are supposedly contained and have never spread.

By the way, the IFA quarantine is a federal quarantine, not a state one, so if you are caught shipping soil potentially infested with ants or eggs, its a felony, not a misdemeanor. And they do have clauses to potentially prosecute "private parties" (ie traders)
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Fire ants are now in all parts of Arkansas as well. They are pretty tough.

Are there regulations for shipping plants from say Arkansas to Florida?
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Austin,
the regulations vary from state to state and are, in some cases very straight-forward, and in other cases, very convoluted.

Most of the current regs were written in 2005, however, some states revamped their regs in 2007. This is why I got out of the small time nursery business. Its just too hard to keep up with the changes, and too easy to get into trouble unless you are a huge entity like, say a Logees etc.

If you are interested, go to the website I am going to give you and check out the regs for your state, and, BEFORE you agree to a plant trade with someone in another state, look at the regs for THEIR state to see if you would be violating the law by trading into or out of that state.

There is a "gray" area with the regs of all 50 states and the US territory of PR...and that is in the definition of "Nursery STock" and what constitutes a "Nurseryman".

Almost all states have worded their definition of "nursery stock" to be any plant or plant part that can be grown or propogated (rhizomes, roots, scions, grafts, buds etc). But the issue arises in the definition of the 'nurseryman". If you are selling plants and have a nursery or grower's license from your state, then of course, YES, YOU ARE A NURSERYMAN.

But if you are just Joe BLow citizen sending a plant to a friend, are you still? SOme states say NO, some states say YES. Its a very gray area.

Go here:

National Plant Board - Home

and look at the section under "Laws and Regulations"

There is a section for each state, you can view the current regs in PDF or Word
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I'm a retired nurseryman here in the state of Florida. I would love to do some trading . I have many aroids, including philodendrons, (including some hybrids made by myself) , anthuriums, brugmansias, agaves, furcraea, aloes, bananas, and cycads (including hybrids by Chumley 1999,2003,2007, & 2008). Nothing wrong with us doing some trading, huh? Where are you? Bob
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Hi Mr. Chumley,
I'd certainly be interested in a FL to FL trade.
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No problem, Gina, where are you located?You can contact me privately at chumleyrobert @hotmail.c anytime and I'll give you an update on what I got. or 813-478-6697 thanks, Robert
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