Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere? - Page 2

bananaT · 03-25-2012, 12:58 PM

I have tried groiwng my trees a supercolumns. It works if your not looking for much fruit.
I think its overstated a bit on that site, because trees on super dwarf roots have never given me more than 10 or so apples. I don't see them supporting near 30. In a commercial setting that may work, with the trees being pumped to the max with everything.

Being in the south, all of my trees are now put on M111. They can be kept at any size, but because the rootstock is more vigorous, the trees can support many more apples.

They're not conducive of a column though. The trunks still grow in diameter, and fruit spurs don't form well in close proximity to it for some reason..

HoaNui · 03-25-2012, 01:20 PM

I have a feeling that you are correct. I was working with mine today and there are tons of flowers, five to each developing bud. How many of these survive to develop into fruit time will tell. Last year I had around six apples per tree but that was their first crop. They lasted well into the autumn but a SW gale cam along and took all but three apples. One of my cherries and two of my plums have thickened their trunks three fold in the three years they've been in the ground. I'm anxious to see what they'll do this season.

bananaT · 03-25-2012, 10:48 PM

Keep us updated on the fruit development. Id like to know how many they set, and how big they get.

With the special circumstances my trees are grown under, they grow in a completely different manner than trees where they're supposed to be grown. So not everything compares.

HoaNui · 03-26-2012, 03:17 AM

OK, will do!

Darkman · 03-26-2012, 06:23 PM

My growing season (frost free) is March 15 through about November 15. Are there apples that can hold their bloom off till March and ripen fruit by November?

barnetmill · 03-26-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

My growing season (frost free) is March 15 through about November 15. Are there apples that can hold their bloom off till March and ripen fruit by November?

I have an apple (Joy) that blooms prior to mid January and it has yielded apples in the past. I am most likely a little colder than you if you actually do live in pensacola, FL since pace is a little further north and inland. Now there may be some cultivars that are more sensitive than others relative to cold. Killing frosts after February are rare where we live. Killing frosts are usually lower than 30 F. Go ahead and plant what you want. I strongly recommend the just fruits and exotics Joy apple.

Darkman · 03-26-2012, 08:31 PM

Barnettmill,

Yes I'm inside the city limits and should be 5-8 degrees warmer than you on weak to normal cold fronts. Do you know what rootstock yours is on? I looked at the M111 and it seems to be a good one for here.

Nicolas Naranja · 03-26-2012, 09:17 PM

I was at a gas station in Bristol, FL on an insect collecting mission and there were apples on a tree there, lots of apples actually. Would have been August of 2007 or 2008.

barnetmill · 03-26-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

Barnettmill,

Yes I'm inside the city limits and should be 5-8 degrees warmer than you on weak to normal cold fronts. Do you know what rootstock yours is on? I looked at the M111 and it seems to be a good one for here.

I do not know which root stock(s) they use. I suggest that you email Brandy Cowley or even try to phone. She is the owner and would know the rootstock. Many of the other people there do not have her knowledge.

jakesebastin · 06-19-2012, 08:16 AM

If you are growing indoor than i do not think that the weather or any conditions make any different. But yah if growing out side than the conditions in Miami need to be analised and than one can proceed.

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