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Snarkie 03-10-2015 01:52 PM

Germinating hard to start seeds
 
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Sometimes we all need a helping hand.

If your favorite seeds are in the “hard-to-start” category, we have tips for you on techniques to give them a hand and get growing.

The three basic methods for “encouraging” the hard-to-start seeds to germinate are:

Scarification - scar or scratch or nick the hard seed coat
Stratification - exposure to a period of cold temperatures
Soaking - hydrates seeds with tougher seed coats

Tricia demonstrates all the methods in our video, Seed Germination—Scarification, Stratification, and Soaking.
Here's the link to the rest of the article:
Tips for Germinating Hard-to-Start Seeds

Richard 03-10-2015 08:25 PM

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Have you never been here?

Snarkie 03-10-2015 08:31 PM

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Nope. I just got that article in an email from them today, so I thought I'd share it.

Richard 03-10-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie (Post 257360)
Nope. I just got that article in an email from them today, so I thought I'd share it.

I've met the owners. They're all about leveraging the public's infatuation with "natural" and "organic" into profit. They personally have little experience in growing and no interest in what is factually healthy.

gnappi 03-10-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 257363)
I've met the owners. They're all about leveraging the public's infatuation with "natural" and "organic" into profit. They personally have little experience in growing and no interest in what is factually healthy.

I'm a long time lurker, and for my first post:

It sounds like you should be living in Cuba. Sheesh...

So why don't YOU spend the time and money to setup a site like that, for free?

Because it's easier to rip anyone up for trying to make a buck doing something useful.

Richard 03-11-2015 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gnappi (Post 257364)
I'm a long time lurker, and for my first post:

It sounds like you should be living in Cuba. Sheesh...

So why don't YOU spend the time and money to setup a site like that, for free?

Because it's easier to rip anyone up for trying to make a buck doing something useful.

Actually I do have a site.

gnappi 03-11-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 257373)
Actually I do have a site.

Such shameless commercial content. I said FREE

Snarkie 03-11-2015 08:15 AM

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My site is free. :0517:

Peaceful Valley carries quality plants. Many people have recommended them to me as a source for people to purchase dawn redwoods if they only need a couple of trees. Grow Organic is a division of their nursery; I have no experience with that part of the company.

Kat2 03-11-2015 02:21 PM

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I was all set to order some plants and seeds from Grow Organic but within the 2 months from my drooling and planning the plants had grown a pound each so shipping was significantly higher. Sad. I was particularly interested in a few brambles and a specific olive tree but bareroots do not double in size that quickly thus my faith in their product was lost.

Richard 03-11-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gnappi (Post 257377)
Such shameless commercial content. I said FREE

As Snarkie points out, the GrowOrganics aka Peaceful Valley site is not free.
:lurk:

Snarkie 03-11-2015 02:55 PM

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Well, I'm not going to get into a pissing match over it. The info I posted was free, and I thought it was informative.

Richard, you've obviously had a bad experience with them and that's fine. Thank you for sharing your angst with them.

Now, let's everyone have a group hug! :twonanners:

sunfish 03-11-2015 02:56 PM

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Grow Organics gives away their plants no charge ?

Kat2 03-11-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 257386)
Grow Organics gives away their plants no charge ?

No. They do put up videos and information that is free; it's not earth shattering stuff but is presented well.

My issue with them is that I had problems figuring out what fit in a shipping box because apparently some plants/tubers/seeds/whatever don't like each other well enough to spend a week together so I had to "buy" another box and that within 1 season they pretty much doubled their shipping costs. I'm sorry but I sincerely doubt a standard bareroot Marionberry weighs a pound and it sure as heck doesn't weigh 2 a few weeks later.

I made plans and a budget so I'm disappointed because I really wanted to purchase from them but couldn't justify the added cost. I wonder if others gave up also?

Snarkie 03-11-2015 03:22 PM

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It's possible, but I doubt it. Their prices are fair and the quality is good, at least in my experience. Would I pay that? No, because I typically buy 250-1,000 seedlings at a time.

If I were purchasing an ornamental or rarer tree, yes. When I want that kind of quality, I pay for it. Forest Farm is a good example of overpriced stock, but the quality is excellent, which is why I've purches hard to find items like Araucaria araucana from them.

sunfish 03-11-2015 03:22 PM

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[quote=Kat2;257387]No. They do put up videos and information that is free; it's not earth shattering stuff but is presented well.

Not sure but I believe that/s called advertizing

Kat2 03-11-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie (Post 257388)
It's possible, but I doubt it. Their prices are fair and the quality is good, at least in my experience. Would I pay that? No, because I typically buy 250-1,000 seedlings at a time.

If I were purchasing an ornamental or rarer tree, yes. When I want that kind of quality, I pay for it. Forest Farm is a good example of overpriced stock, but the quality is excellent, which is why I've purches hard to find items like Araucaria araucana from them.

Ah but I don't know their quality because this was to be my 1st purchase. (Yes, I can go to Garden Watchdog and read reviews--which I do.)

I'm an old lady who has purchased quite a lot of garden stuff over the years; I've been a trusting soul with mail order before it was cool and never had issues. But I have never seen any company change their catalog during the growing season. They did and I find that suspect which is why I'm still looking for Marionberry and other west coast brambles. Anyone got some? ;)

(Yes, I should shut up--this is OT but I really do want those plants!)

Snarkie 03-11-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat2 (Post 257391)
Ah but I don't know their quality because this was to be my 1st purchase. (Yes, I can go to Garden Watchdog and read reviews--which I do.)

I'm an old lady who has purchased quite a lot of garden stuff over the years; I've been a trusting soul with mail order before it was cool and never had issues. But I have never seen any company change their catalog during the growing season. They did and I find that suspect which is why I'm still looking for Marionberry and other west coast brambles. Anyone got some? ;)

(Yes, I should shut up--this is OT but I really do want those plants!)

I have several acres of blackberries I've been trying to eradicate at the Preserve for almost 25 years. They're pretty close to the variety you have out there.

Kat2 03-11-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie (Post 257393)
I have several acres of blackberries I've been trying to eradicate at the Preserve for almost 25 years. They're pretty close to the variety you have out there.

Okay, I suspect not. I'm not "out there"--I'm "down there". Having gardened in the Northeast all of my life, I'm in FL now and trying to master massive bugs, humidity, odd moldy situations and something called "2 season" gardening. Haha! Nobody has a clue when to plant an onion set. I just purchased $1 worth at the local feed store; supposedly they should have been planted in October. Except there were none to buy then. (And then there's the advice of vernalizing them for 6 weeks in the fridge which I'm doing and thinking I might just keep some chilled until next October--what's 50 cents?) Residents with only lawn and ornamentals love to tell you how to raise food except they gave up years ago but still know best. Even the Master Gardeners and the AG extension give conflicting information. Sheesh.

But if your blackberries are not tiny ones but meaty like the wild thorny ones I cultivated when living in MD (40 or so to fill a pint) then you've got a winner. And I'd be interested....

Snarkie 03-11-2015 04:23 PM

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Oh, I didn't see that you're on the Space Coast. Yeah, they're the same variety. I've got to get up there in the next 6 weeks or so to mow out all the open areas, as the Virginia pine is taking them over. I'll try and dig up a couple roots and stems for ya.

Kat2 03-11-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie (Post 257397)
Oh, I didn't see that you're on the Space Coast. Yeah, they're the same variety. I've got to get up there in the next 6 weeks or so to mow out all the open areas, as the Virginia pine is taking them over. I'll try and dig up a couple roots and stems for ya.

Not much Space stuff going on here these days which is how I found a cheap little fixer on a quiet street with 1/3 acre to plant and abundant woods behind my lot for any overflow.

If you have big berry plants, let's talk. My wonderful Sleeping Beauty thorned one in MD was gifted by a neighbor who said it came from the woods and never produced--it did for me.


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