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TommyMacLuckie 12-09-2010 11:47 AM

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Having had to deal with big white birds outside and in containers over the years I think it's more about the root development than anything. In a container it's either going to take forever to grow roots because it doesn't need to or it is neglected (this I can tell you for sure) and not bloom ever or if it's really suped up it will get root bound which would most likely make it bloom like mad.

In the ground is best. You can build a frame around it and keep it warm over the late fall and winter months in it's very own hothouse.

Outdoors in the heat they grow much faster and tall and bloom. I've never read or heard anything about birds needing cold to bloom since they are a tropical and in the banana family. They don't like cold!

Linda_GER 12-09-2010 06:25 PM

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I've never read or heard anything about birds needing cold to bloom since they are a tropical and in the banana family. They don't like cold!
Yes and no. Of course, they must be able to bloom without a cold period as they grow and bloom in warm zones, but coldness (of limited duration) is no hindrance for them to bloom (as my S. reginae plants show). You`re probably right - maybe S. nicolai needs to be in the ground to bloom.

TommyMacLuckie 12-09-2010 06:43 PM

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What kind of cold do you mean? Ha ha. 50F? When I say cold, or whatever it was I said, I guess I meant below 32F. They bloom like mad in New Orleans and St Petersburg, FL all summer long. Hell, they bloom when it's cold out even (60F to 40F). They must get to an age where it doesn't matter what temperature it is (unless it's below freezing, of course), they're gonna bloom.

soundofthemusic1 12-10-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyMacLuckie (Post 149940)
What kind of cold do you mean? Ha ha. 50F? When I say cold, or whatever it was I said, I guess I meant below 32F. They bloom like mad in New Orleans and St Petersburg, FL all summer long. Hell, they bloom when it's cold out even (60F to 40F). They must get to an age where it doesn't matter what temperature it is (unless it's below freezing, of course), they're gonna bloom.

Hi, Tommy,

Thank you for the clarification about the proper growth/flowering conditions for Strelitzia nicolai (Giant BOP). Reading this thread has been a very educational experience for me.

Hi, Linda,

Thank you for sharing with me your experience with Strelitzia reginae and your knowledge of Strelitzia nicolai. By the way, your S. juncea (Narrow-Leaved BOP) is gorgeous. Its narrow leaves are very different and unique.

Rae

Linda_GER 12-10-2010 05:53 PM

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By the way, your S. juncea (Narrow-Leaved BOP) is gorgeous.
The photo you can see below shows a plant on the wonderful island Madeira (Portugal). My own S. juncea plants are still quite small as they germinated just two years ago.

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They must get to an age where it doesn't matter what temperature it is (unless it's below freezing, of course), they're gonna bloom.
Absolutely, but I ask myself if there needs to be something more than just the age that makes the plant bloom.

TommyMacLuckie 12-12-2010 01:02 AM

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The cold - anything below 70F - will just make it take longer to bloom ie slow it down. Cold is not a good thing for white bird considering where they are from.

penJ. 12-12-2010 08:55 AM

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I forgot mine s.reginae last winter outside, when i brought it inside it was totally damaged by heavy freeze few nights more than -5deg.C and one night -17deg.C. Now new leaves are evidently smaller than before, but the plant is ok.

Picture from past winter:

sunfish 12-12-2010 04:16 PM

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Dalmatiansoap 12-12-2010 04:26 PM

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what a clump!!!

Dean W. 12-18-2010 02:38 PM

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Nice clump Tony!

soundofthemusic1 12-18-2010 04:20 PM

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Wow! Next time when I visit California or Florida, I have to look for those white birds and the S. Reginae. Thank you all for the wonderful photos.

Thanks, PenJ, for your information on the S. Reginae. It's very comforting to know S. Reginae will survive 1.4 degree fahrenheit.

TommyMacLuckie 12-19-2010 12:38 PM

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Goofy.

YouTube - Ken's problem with the white bird of paradise plants!

nannerfunboi 12-19-2010 03:52 PM

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tommy.. LOL.. thats a great video man.. loved it..:)
i think im going to give a few big BOP a try this next yr..
worst thing that could happen is they dont work out for me..
hey..do you know if this "ken" has a website of the plants he has
for sale?
thanks all..

sunfish 12-19-2010 04:48 PM

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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...0_JMfA&cad=rja


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