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Old 09-15-2007, 10:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bamboo Hoop House Design Questions

I have a engineering question what diameter of bundled together qualms is necessary to support a 25 ft tall hoop house. I am have started making 50 foot long by 4 inch diameter by wiring 1/2 to 1 inch diameter culms of various lengths and filing the voids with foam glue after painting with marine spar varnish I have plenty of small diameter bamboo culms so build up diameter is not an issue other than needing a crane to lift in to place if they get too heavy 4" by 50 ft is pretty heavy and if it needs to be six to eight to support That height; in Texas wind consider 75 mph at least once a year here and a annual ice storm a design factor; in the past I have made numerous bamboo hoop houses usually I take two or three one inch by 20 ft ones and wire together at mid point and stick in the ground makes a 6 ft tall by 8 to 10 wide u shaped hoop cover with clear plastic or frost guard and instant green house. .I want something more permant for big tropicals --Picture in my gallery, I also would be interested in trading different species
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Phyllostachys bambusoides "Madake"
Also known as "Giant Japanese Timber Bamboo." The largest reliable, easy-to-grow, temperate climate giant bamboo. It can grow 72' tall and 6" in diameter and produces excellent wood. Before flowering 20 years ago, it was the predominate bamboo cultivated in Japan. Hardy to -5 degrees. Mine is just starting to size up and clums are getting up to 2 inches
Phyllostachys heterocycla 'Pubescens' (china) "Moso"
The largest growing species of the genus and considered by many to be the most beautiful, Moso is the most cultivated bamboo in China and Japan. It produces especially tasty shoots in tropical environments and is used throughout Asia for construction. Reaching up to 80' tall and 8" in diameter in the climate of origin, the tops arch gracefully with masses of small leaves. Moso is difficult to establish and requires lots of water, acidity, tropical humidity and heat to reach its full potential. It remains much shorter in less ideal circumstances. Not for desert environments. Small plants should be partially shaded. Hardy to 0 degrees. Mine was started from a seedling after the flowering die off and is not sizing up yet
Phyllostachys vivax
Probably a form of Ph. bambusoides, this plant grows up to 72’ tall and 6” in diameter in its native climate. Canes are bright green and smooth. New shoots have culm sheaths that are dark brown with light brown spots. Vivax is hardy to -5 degrees. My grove is sending up culms in the inch and half range 20 tall
Was sold to me as Phyllostachys aureosulcata "Yellow Groove"
This plant is a real stand-out with brightly colored green canes and a bold yellow vertical stripe in the sulcus. Frequently grows with a pronounced zig-zag at the base. It is a vigorous runner with dark green leaves and tasty shoots. Maximum height is 45' and 3" in diameter. This exceptionally cold tolerant bamboo withstands -10 degrees. The aureosulcata group is great for medium size hedges and specimen plants.
I believe my grove is Phyllostachys aureosulcata 'Alata' A dark green form of aureosulcata with frequent zig-zag in the canes and no stripe in the sulcus My grove is sending up culms in the inch range and is 15 to 20 tall
Arundinaria gigantea ssp. Gigantean “River Cane or Canebreak bamboo “
This species, along with its shorter form, ‘Tecta’, are the only bamboos native to the United States. It was once widespread in the south, growing in Florida to Texas and as far north as Ohio and Maryland Arundinaria gigantea has been recorded growing to over 30 feet tall in the past, but it is now seldom seen growing much over 20 feet tall. The 'Tecta' form looks similar but only grows 6-8 feet tall and is tolerant of wet soil. Another variety called 'Macon' is rumored to grow more upright and to be cold tolerant to -26 F. Hardiness: -10° F Maximum Height: 15-30 feet Diameter: 1 inch Mine is blooming with seed heads on 20 plus foot stalks diameter size 15/16 inch plus

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Phyllostachys nigra "Black Bamboo”
Phyllostachys nigra 'Henon'
Muso Any dessert banana start
I would like to try a tropical timber bamboo but will need to build a structure for it first or it will die here
-- any feed back would be appreciated Philip
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