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Old 10-17-2007, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have started a collection of mainly rainforest understory palms. This is my favorite one at the moment. Its a Salacca magnifica. It comes from Borneo, where it can be found in moist areas at the base of cliffs on the edge of the rainforest. Its become quite rare due to habitat destruction. Its an "entire leaf" palm and has really wicked spines. The individual leaves can eventually reach lengths of 20 feet. At the moment, mine are about 4 feet.
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Very nice specimen. I like the entire-leafed palms. I am growing Chamaedorea metallica and Calyptrogyne ghiesbreghtiana, as well as some non-entire varieties. I grow indoors in Ohio where palms grow extremely slowly from seed.
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I have started a collection of mainly rainforest understory palms. This is my favorite one at the moment. Its a Salacca magnifica. It comes from Borneo, where it can be found in moist areas at the base of cliffs on the edge of the rainforest. Its become quite rare due to habitat destruction. Its an "entire leaf" palm and has really wicked spines. The individual leaves can eventually reach lengths of 20 feet. At the moment, mine are about 4 feet.
Hi very nice looking palm I live in Indiana zone-5 and have 8 foot tall teddy bear palm, 2 -6 foot red sealing wax palms, splendida stilt root palm wich is about 9 feet tall ,Aiphanes ruffle palm wich is about 7 feet tall with a trunk of about 6 inches around ,1 christmas palm wich is 10 feet tall and is planted as a double .2-8-9 foot foxtail palms a few other palms that are currently in 3 gallon. joey palm,coromo palm ,red flame thrower palm,1- 6 foot tall pygmy date palm triple,areca vesteria marron form about 5 feet tall and I think thats it for now,everyone tells me I need to move to florida!!!! I wish maybe someday!!! my next purchase is a carayota zebrina I found one in florida in a 25 gallon size it is 7 feet tall from soil line has 4 fronds and is 20 plus years old ,he only has 2 left,but they are very!!!!!exspensive!
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Hi Jason, I have most of the palms you mentioned as well. Mine are not as old, I have been growing them only for the last 2 years and bought them as seedlings. I kinda prefer to grow things from the start and watch them develop, instead of getting something that is already grown, LOL. Its a lot cheaper that way, and for me more fun. I have 3 Caroyta zebrinas, they are growing well.

I'd like to see photos of some of yours, if you don't mind!

This is a new spear one of my my Blonde Flamethrowers:

These are a few Pinangas, "Sarawak Blue Seed" and "Thai Mottled"

And my baby Licuala orbicularis, an extremely rare palm:
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Greystoke,
can you post a photo of your Vampire Palm?? I have never seen one.
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can you post a photo of your Vampire Palm?? I have never seen one.
Unfortunately I am not digitized. However you can find photos of this and other palms at www.plantapalm.com/vpe/photos/vpe_photos.htm.

My own specimen is very young and small, only 2 tiny leaves, just up from seed. If you stand about 4 inches away it's quite pretty.
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I have seen photos of it, but never seen a live one. This is one I just picked up at a sale in Central FL, Licuala spinosa. I have over 10 species of Licuala, they are one of my favorite genus' of palm

This is my young Ruffle palm (Aiphanes caryotifolia) growing by the stream in my greenhouse. This palm is heavily armed and I have to be really careful around it (ouch)

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Great looking palms, gives me some ideas of what I would like to add to my collection.

I am currently growing:

1. Thrinax radiata - Florida Thatch Palm
2. Phoneix robelenii - Pygmy Date Palm
3. Heterospathe elata - Sagisi Palm
4. Ptychosperma macarthurii - MacArthur Palm
5. Adonidia merrillii - Christmas Palm

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You might consider this one: Calyptrocalyx pachystachys, it stays pretty small (most Calypts have high houseplant possibility) and the new fronds are killer!
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Oh!!! That a cool looking palm!
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Lilith is that an Ae Ae in picture 1 ? and also what is the large aroid leaf in the tiny Licuala picture ?

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That's totally okay, Mark...a plant question is never offtopic to me!
Yes, that's my Ae Ae in the background. Its getting back into its old digs after a brief foray in the yard, LOL.

And yes, those ar earoids with the Licuala. The top (largest) leaves belong to Philodendron gloriosum. The green leaves with the feathery white pattern on them are Cercestis mirablis, and the quilted looking green leaves (woth the new red emergent leaf) is either straight Anthurium dresslerii or A. dresslerii x radicans, I can't remember off the top of my head which that is
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I have a large Bottle Palm (rare for New Jersey), a Flamethrower Palm, which I'm a little worried about since its new leaf will not open, a Mexican Fan Palm, a small Coconut Palm, and recently planted freshly collected seeds of a Christmas Palm, a Jelly Palm, and a large unidentified fan palm, which I'm hoping will germinate soon! Plus the usual Home Depot stuff...

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Lilith your plants are just marvelous !!!!!!!!
I also agree with you about starting out small to watch them grow.
Currently I have a few palms and cycads too.

1 King, 2 Pygmy date
3 Queen (1 sprouted in my yard), 6 Bottle (some variegated)
2 Foxtail, 1 Mediterranean
1 Fishtail, 1 Windmill
2 Majesty, 5 Mexican fan (all sprouted from yard)
1 Cat palm, 1 Parlor palm
1 Canary Island date, 1 Coconut
The only unusual to me would be my Panama Hat & Purple crownshaft
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Valerie,
I'd love to see photos of your variegated Bottles! I have 2 (normal) bottles, one is about 4 ft, the other about 2 ft. I really like them.
I like fishtails (Caryota) too and have some small ones. I think I have 2 of the hardiest (Himilaya and Urens), when they get large enough I plan to plant them out.

This is my coconut palm. Its not too large yet, about 6-7 ft. I am keeping it until a friend gets permission to plant it out on the UF campus. It will be an experiment, in a very protected location.


This may be my most challenging palm, I just got it very recently. Its a Chamaedorea sullivanorianum. They are cloud forest palms, and from most input I have had from palm growers much more experienced than me, it may well be too hot in Florida. But I am going to give it my all because this is one of the palms I really, REALLY want to grow.


Please show me photos of some of yours!!
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My most unusual palm is Sabal sp. Birmingham:



I also grow many cold hardy palms (Trachycarpus, Sabal, Rhapidophyllum....)
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OK, Lilith I will post some pictures when I get a chance. The only palm picture I have so far is my Canary Island date. It needs a good trimming but will be expensive since it is so big. It is the biggest palm I have and perfect for shade in the yard.

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Many of you know that I have two Talipot palms in the front yard. Two years they were in bad condition suffering bud rot. It's a problem like frizzy top in fox tail palms. I was ready to rip them out until a friend told me to use potassium nitrate and magnesium sulfate. Now the look great.
I meet the head palm man from Fairchild Tropical Botanical Garden at a palm program held by the Kampong this past week. I told him about my palms and he said they looked bad two years ago. He didn't know who owned the palms but he was concerned - not enough to stop and tell what to do.
I use both of these fertilizers (very small amounts) on my Ae Aes to make them more sturdy. It causes the green % to increase. More green means more growth. The white % comes back when I stop those fertilizers. I like it on pups and in the fall.
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Hi, to everyone that loves their palms too.
Whenever my palms look a little on the yellow side. I green them up with epsom salts which is magnesium sulfate. Regular fertilizers do not have enough of this trace element that they need. Every spring and late summer I sprinkle a 1/2 cup around the base and water it in. This is in addition to their regular food every 3 months. Potassium nitrate is something I will have to try out, thanks jnstropic.
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Actually, its not as simple as magnesium. If a palm is deficient in Magnesium, its usually out of balance with Manganese and Iron too. Florida soils are notorious for this deficiency.
I use a product called Chelated Palm Nutritional on all of mine as a foliar spray (you can also use it as a soil drench) every 3 months when I fertilize. It has all the trace and minor elements palms need. It also comes in a powder form you can sprinkle around the base.
I also use this on Anthuriums, heliconias, gingers and other heavy feeders.

I tried a Cal/Mag fertilizer with K nitrate on my palms, and it burned some of them even at the recommended dosage. I use it on other plants now but not on palms
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