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Old 08-04-2009, 10:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thats fine with me. Now for Canada ,we'll have a west coast ,central,...and the other side


Chong ,I'm back from being schooled ,so lets get the meetings started!!
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Hey - whatever you decide is good for me - if people on this island contact me - result!!!
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A southern-CA section makes sense for meet-ups but not for growing conditions. San Diego county alone contains 5 major inhabited climate zones.
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I got into quite a discussion with Tog about this 2-3 months ago and I personally prefer no regions at all. Within regions there are many different growing climates and levels of interest so we often a great deal in common with someone in another region. For instance, for the past two days I've been helping out a newbie in Florida who has contacted me by e-mail for some help. I don't know why he selected me to ask for help but I was glad I was able to help out.

While I prefer forums over "groups", one of the major disadvantages of forums is that it's easy to miss out on discussions. I find that to be the case already with the large number of sub-forums we have and creating regional sub-forums will just increase that.

Sorry, but that's my honest opinion on the matter.

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Whatever is decided here I will go along with, I must admit I would be interested in knowing what others in my area (state) are accomplishing but not alot of nana growers here in Minnesota so......
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A nice can of worms you opened here, Jarred! Everyone has good opinions and to be honest, I'm not sure the best way to go. I need to think on it a bit.
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Please assist me ... How do I place my pin??

And for common themes in growing bananas, I have found in communicating with myriad others over the past few years that Hawaii has more in common growing conditions with Florida and Louisiana.

The most southern area of CA (greater San Diego area), with the exception of a former famed banana farm in La Conchita (near Santa Barbara) are about all I know of in CA.

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If the main reason for the new regional sections is to encourage meetings, trades, and other events, then perhaps another option would be to have a section for: Meetings, Trades, and Other Member Events.

I agree with scuba dave. I question how much regional sections would be used here. With the posted sample regions, I am in the southwest (northern AZ) but closer to SLC, UT than to Phoenix and closer to Las Vegas then SLC.

Breaking up by growing zones would make sense for discussing how and what to grow, but that isn't really the purpose of the new sections...is it? And, there are already sections for many specifics, like cold hardy bananas.

We can see, from the map, were we all live. If we have a section set up to encourage events...it may just encourage events.

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Yes, the core main reason is numerous. This would be for events and to also share techniques, compare notes, trade corms, etc.
I posted it here for discussion and every single reply has added another facet to the bigger picture. I'm not sure the best way to go about this yet.
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A nice can of worms you opened here, Jarred! Everyone has good opinions and to be honest, I'm not sure the best way to go. I need to think on it a bit.
Ditto, and agree 100%. I think its good to talk about and take the feedback and act accordingly, if at all.
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I was busy with my newborn when it was posted and did not yet read it, thanks for the link, reading now.
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I was contemplating this with my wife this morning at breakfast and speculated how beneficial geographic forums would be..California..Florida..etc.,…she replied that ZONES would be better as this would unite growers all over the world with the same climate zone.

I think it would be cool to have a ZONE 10 forum for tropical/sub-tropical climate topics in Zone 10 and above. Not sure how the other Zones would break out...but I am certain some of the members have some great ideas on this...

This would reduce some of the duplicate posting that is occurring more frequently resultant of the growth of the board.

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I was contemplating this with my wife this morning at breakfast and speculated how beneficial geographic forums would be..California..Florida..etc.,…she replied that ZONES would be better as this would unite growers all over the world with the same climate zone.

I think it would be cool to have a ZONE 10 forum for tropical/sub-tropical climate topics in Zone 10 and above. Not sure how the other Zones would break out...but I am certain some of the members have some great ideas on this...

This would reduce some of the duplicate posting that is occurring more frequently resultant of the growth of the board.
Think this is a good idea, but only have one concern with it. If it is divided up into zones, there are so many other variables within a specific zone. I know that a "zone 8" here in the southeastern US, is a lot different than a "zone 8" in the pacific northwest. Not sure this would be beneficial since variabilities are so far ranging. (summer heat, annual rainfall, just to name two). It is so difficult to be able to section folks up from a growing standpoint.
Just my 2 cents worth....
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Generally is a good idea. We could finally see differences between US and Europe zones. There was so many debates about it. Are they equal or are they not equal. Something like "...to be or not to be..." issue.
Good idea anyway.
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Generally is a good idea. We could finally see differences between US and Europe zones. There was so many debates about it. Are they equal or are they not equal. Something like "...to be or not to be..." issue.
Good idea anyway.
Gulf Stream would be an issue there, wouldn't it. It has different effects on both sides, Florida and Northern Spain/England.
Also humidity is a great problem in Mediterranean (Greece, Italy and Spain mostly)... etc etc. Those places are very difficult to compare.
Spain is also a place with the desertation tendency; a desert might form there within 40 years or less.
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Gulf Stream would be an issue there, wouldn't it. It has different effects on both sides, Florida and Northern Spain/England.
Also humidity is a great problem in Mediterranean (Greece, Italy and Spain mostly)... etc etc. Those places are very difficult to compare.
Spain is also a place with the desertation tendency; a desert might form there within 40 years or less.
Not really looking to "compare" different areas within the same zone...rather group topics by one of the most important growing attributes for Bananas..temperature.

The first thing to define would be what we would use as climate measurement...the most commonly referred to barometer is "The USDA Hardiness Zone".....there are others (Koppen, etc.,). There is no perfect way to divide the forums, geographic or otherwise. From a personal standpoint I have been pining for a Tropical/Sub-tropical forum....maybe we could add just one Forum "Zone 10" for topics related to USDA Hardiness Zone 10 and above. We all appreciate reading about/seeing bananas growing in better/ideal circumstances, i.e. the pics of the mammoth Musa Ingens.

Which bananas produce the biggest p-stem?

We have a forum for "Cold Hardy Bananas"....how bout a forum "Tropical/Sub-Tropical"??
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Great suggestion, Rmplmnz - the challenges facing Tropical growers are very similar, regardless of our KG or USDA estimated zones. I have the same problems as John up in Mexico, similar ones to Cassie in the Dominican, and on the other side of the pond, as Tog in KL had. I think that a Tropical Zones forum would go a long way to address our common problems and whatnot.
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Great suggestion, Rmplmnz - the challenges facing Tropical growers are very similar, regardless of our KG or USDA estimated zones. I have the same problems as John up in Mexico, similar ones to Cassie in the Dominican, and on the other side of the pond, as Tog in KL had. I think that a Tropical Zones forum would go a long way to address our common problems and whatnot.
Dearest Beth, as much as I enjoy debating you at times, I would absolutely love to get just this sort of thing going on here. I'd enjoy "spying " on you guys and seeing what I might get out of it......much like I do the Europeans. Tog and I spoke of this often. I hope it comes to pass with lots of participation. In fact I'd hope that it would encourage more members from the tropics to come aboard and stay which is what we need here.
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More tropical members = more banana supply for the board....many people in the tropics compost more pups than the average board member grows....be nice to get some of the more unusual bananas spread throughout the membership base...

I used to love to read Bill Lessard's old paper catalog (over and over).....and dream of growing the many tastee bananas....there are many varieties that we can all share experiences vicariously through members in the true tropics.

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WOW....talk of splitting up into Zones/Regions...who thought of this one.....I thought Bananas.Org. was a forum based DISCUSSION group....putting all people...from all zones together to share...learn and grow thru each others...knowledge and experience!

Mind you...this is my opinion....But I get the impression from reading the threads in regards to all of this...is that some people don't like the repeat posts from people, ....Now how stupid is this......at one time u yourself was a new person on Bananas.Org....and u posted questions...questions that were probably already posted....reposting...is beneficial....especially with ever changing techniques taking place!

I get the feeling that the warmer zones just want 2 b in a group all by themselves....you know I get the impression that they think they are...well just all that, if u know what I mean...(I think they make a pill 4 it) and let me add....the bananas you grow in the warmer zones...I can grow successfully right here in Zone 5 Michigan ! Mind you, it won't get as big and I have to dig the suckers up....but it can be grown here! My experience from growing non hardy bananas can be beneficial to many and maybe even you down there in the warmer zones...sharing ones experiences is what this group based forum is all about!

By splitting up into zones/regions would stop the knowledge flow...the flow of new improved beneficial techniques and the ability to learn from the experiences of each others success and failures and the ability to grow! Why change something that is not broken...just for a few!

Isn't this what Bananas.Org. is all about...LEARNING - SHARING - GROWING BANANAS!


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WOW....talk of splitting up into Zones/Regions...who thought of this one.....I thought Bananas.Org. was a forum based DISCUSSION group....putting all people...from all zones together to share...learn and grow thru each others...knowledge and experience!

Mind you...this is my opinion....But I get the impression from reading the threads in regards to all of this...is that some people don't like the repeat posts from people, ....Now how stupid is this......at one time u yourself was a new person on Bananas.Org....and u posted questions...questions that were probably already posted....reposting...is beneficial....especially with ever changing techniques taking place!

I get the feeling that the warmer zones just want 2 b in a group all by themselves....you know I get the impression that they think they are...well just all that, if u know what I mean...(I think they make a pill 4 it) and let me add....the bananas you grow in the warmer zones...I can grow successfully right here in Zone 5 Michigan ! Mind you, it won't get as big and I have to dig the suckers up....but it can be grown here! My experience from growing non hardy bananas can be beneficial to many and maybe even you down there in the warmer zones...sharing ones experiences is what this group based forum is all about!

By splitting up into zones/regions would stop the knowledge flow...the flow of new improved beneficial techniques and the ability to learn from the experiences of each others success and failures and the ability to grow! Why change something that is not broken...just for a few!

Isn't this what Bananas.Org. is all about...LEARNING - SHARING - GROWING BANANAS!


Mind u...this is my opinion!

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Easy now...everyone's opinion is respected..I caution you to use words like "stupid" very carefully (if at all)...Jarred is soliciting input from members in regards to "add more dedicated forums"....not to split the board...

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