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Old 11-08-2016, 09:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I am new here and would like to be here among people that enjoy and have a passion for bananas and banana plants but am having some troubles and don't understand what is happening.


I advertised that I was desperate to buy banana corms on here and was answered by two members that quickly sent photos and made arrangements for me to purchase from them.

I being not used to using paypal and doing business online through a forum promptly paid them via their request to pay by sending money to friends and family . I did so and the amounts requested , I was told by both that they would be shipping today and that they would send me a tracking number . I have not heard from them but posted them many times here today also emailed them several times and cannot get a reply.

My question is ....Was I stupid for buying from two established members online and did I get scammed or is it just one of those things that they did not have time to answer? I was curious as yesterday when they were trying to sell me what they had to offer I was getting emails back and forth..Please tell me what my thoughts should be on this and how to proceed ? Thanks in advance to the newbie.

I am just curious if anyone else has had an issue here and what their course of action was? I am an old man on a fixed income and worried that I might have made a mistake.. Please let me know what to do ? or should I be worried at all? Michael
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I haven't had any issues with buying from members. If they have a lot of posts on this forum, it probably isn't a scam. People get busy and forum most forum members have other jobs. Be patient and if it turns out to be a scam, then post so on the forum and it will alert everyone to cease buying from that member.
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There are some members I'd buy pups from here in a heartbeat (I have a postponed meet tomorrow with one guy here who is passing pups to me from another--he drove to get them) and a couple I studiously avoid. Just because someone here has a lot of posts and sells doesn't win me over; the very few I have dealings with I've watched since I joined 3 years (?) ago. This is a forum comprised of many honest people but not all are. Caveat emptor always. But since few here sell spare pups for a living, don't fret. If you have paid and there's been no acknowledgement of your order, I wouldn't hesitate to e-mail and ask.
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I haven't had any issues with buying from members. If they have a lot of posts on this forum, it probably isn't a scam. People get busy and forum most forum members have other jobs. Be patient and if it turns out to be a scam, then post so on the forum and it will alert everyone to cease buying from that member.

I just thought..... not thinking I guess...that since they were on this forum and established one has been on a couple years and the other a year and both have what seems to be a lot of post especially advertising... I just assumed..making an ass out of me.. you know the word assumed starts with making an ass out of the person.. anyway I thought and was thinking all was what it seemed..

Odd that both after pushing to be paid paypal quickly and as friend or family insisted they use their type of shipping instead of using my fedex account.. hmmmm? Red flag right there... anyway .. I just realized too.. that neither has my address ,so how could the have a tracking number for me? Uh... I guess I am older than I thought.. not using my head....I DID email them and emailed them and posted them here and messaged both and so far nothing..

Maybe they are busy voting loll.... yeah .. hmmmm well I don't want to be a suspicious person but you got to think its all all.. They both found time to send me beautiful photos and email after email yesterday no matter what time it was now.. nothing.. hmmm what would you think? Ok.. I will be patient because of course you might be right ,maybe they both had to work late tonight.. uh.. ok.. but then I will make sure I alert other members of their identities asap in a day or so after I alert authorities . I think they call that mail fraud and also internet fraud among other things.. But like you said .. I will just be patient and hope I did not make a bad mistake..

I don't usually use paypal and found today that if you send money to friends and family that it isn't covered in refunds.. no wonder they insisted "red flag"' lol.. Anyway .. guess we will see where this goes..I was just curious as a new member if this is the norm.. I hope not..I was so excited about being here among people with same interest.. Anyway thanks for your reply and the other guy that wrote here too.. Thank you and I will keep you posted "pardon the pun" have a good night..
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There are some members I'd buy pups from here in a heartbeat (I have a postponed meet tomorrow with one guy here who is passing pups to me from another--he drove to get them) and a couple I studiously avoid. Just because someone here has a lot of posts and sells doesn't win me over; the very few I have dealings with I've watched since I joined 3 years (?) ago. This is a forum comprised of many honest people but not all are. Caveat emptor always. But since few here sell spare pups for a living, don't fret. If you have paid and there's been no acknowledgement of your order, I wouldn't hesitate to e-mail and ask.
Thanks for the input. Perhaps you can PM me a list of people on here that you are comfortable with and those you are not. I am new here and well...I am old and sick and stress is a killer.. I just hope that I have not made a mistake and thank you for taking time to reply. Guess I should try to be a little more careful. No wonder people prey on older people, easier pickings.. Anyway .. hope you have a good night and thanks for replying .. Appreciate it..
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you have to really watch out now a days. They maybe have had an account for 2 or 3 years but are never active and little info. I almost got scammed into getting bananas from Thailand. but they wanted me to send the money to Africa. strange things happen. good luck and be careful. paypal is best never let them get your credit card
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My advice, from learning the hard way, would be to exercise caution when exhibiting enthusiasm for a new hobby. (I know, easy to say but hard to do)

When I decided I wanted to try my hand a growing bananas several months ago, I bought some TC's online without really knowing what I was doing or researching my options. Fortunately, things turned out OK and my small plants are finally showing signs of growth, but it I were to do it over again, I would've kept my money in my pocket longer and looked more at options closer to home.

I hope your purchases work out and you're eatin' bananas next year.
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I have purchased from sddarkman619 on here and he provided excellent service. So yes there are reputable people on here. Also, by using pay-pal you protected your order and your monies.
Give them a chance to get everything packed and shipped. They should send you a routing number within 10-14 days. If they do not contact Pay-Pal.

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Everyone I have dealt with here has been more than great to deal with... and I have dealt with several.
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I ordered from PUKPUKZ and got my 5 corms about 4 days later after payment. He delivered what he said.

It's been less than 24 hours since you ordered. Give him a little time to get your package put together and in the mail. ... You are fussing that he wouldn't use your FEDEX account for shipping; heck, I would not either as I don't have time to sit at home waiting on a FEDEx driver to come for the pickup. The USPS is vary easy to use; walk in & walk out.

Now I see you making a post to JD (pukpukz) 2 hours apart wanting to know the tracking number, forums are not the same as 'chats'. Most members only check the forum once every day or so; some members do work & have jobs.

Give him a couple of days, before you start bitching!
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I just thought..... not thinking I guess...that since they were on this forum and established one has been on a couple years and the other a year and both have what seems to be a lot of post especially advertising... I just assumed..making an ass out of me.. you know the word assumed starts with making an ass out of the person.. anyway I thought and was thinking all was what it seemed..

Odd that both after pushing to be paid paypal quickly and as friend or family insisted they use their type of shipping instead of using my fedex account.. hmmmm? Red flag right there... anyway .. I just realized too.. that neither has my address ,so how could the have a tracking number for me? Uh... I guess I am older than I thought.. not using my head....I DID email them and emailed them and posted them here and messaged both and so far nothing..

Maybe they are busy voting loll.... yeah .. hmmmm well I don't want to be a suspicious person but you got to think its all all.. They both found time to send me beautiful photos and email after email yesterday no matter what time it was now.. nothing.. hmmm what would you think? Ok.. I will be patient because of course you might be right ,maybe they both had to work late tonight.. uh.. ok.. but then I will make sure I alert other members of their identities asap in a day or so after I alert authorities . I think they call that mail fraud and also internet fraud among other things.. But like you said .. I will just be patient and hope I did not make a bad mistake..

I don't usually use paypal and found today that if you send money to friends and family that it isn't covered in refunds.. no wonder they insisted "red flag"' lol.. Anyway .. guess we will see where this goes..I was just curious as a new member if this is the norm.. I hope not..I was so excited about being here among people with same interest.. Anyway thanks for your reply and the other guy that wrote here too.. Thank you and I will keep you posted "pardon the pun" have a good night..
I really Don't believe YOU. You sent me a worm in your email when you were hacked and my Virus protection lock it up and won't let me open your email to send a tracking number I spent last nite and this morning getting it out of my system and cost me a lot of time. You wanted photos and I dig all my corms up fresh and in the Rain the other Day And I have lots of other orders going out YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PERSON !!!! You need to grow up and stop acting like a 8 year old child on XMAS Day. I called and left you the tracking number on your phone. Now I get my system back up and see all the emails and messages. I work all day package up orders and take them in the afternoon to be shipped and I see in your last message it is 3.30 PM and you are getting worried If you go to USPS.COM you will see your package was accepted at 3:26 P M left Cameron LA at 4:03 PM and left Baton Rouge at 5:32 AM You can also enter you email and they will send you a update every time it is scan and let you know were it is !! your tracking number is 9114 9999 4423 8564 2499 49 I hope you re-think just what you are doing Again you are not the only person that is on the good earth and has a order and this is A new First for me that a grown Man would act in this way
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It is a real shame that a person has to act in this manner Being new is not a excuse !!! Their are a Lot or good people here trying to help people like you so you don't have to wait 2-3 years to get Bananas like you would have to form a T/C. I have never had a person act in the way that you have. And then you want to come post and bad mouth someone. You need to stop acting like a child I had 28 emails from you before you send a worm into my system that stop everything!!! the most emails I have ever made on dealings is 4 Before this. Your time expectations are unreasonable . Most people here use pay pal so they don't have to pay out Fees and save money . I don't need to sell corms I sell Bananas at the farmers Market, SO no one push for payment I will not cut the tops off trees and get them ready to ship until they are paid For. And as far as fedex it is a hundred mile round trip to use them.
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fIRST OF ALL SORRY TO ANY MEMBERS I OFFENDED BY THIS POST OTHER THAN THE PERSON IT APPLIED TO. I FIND THAT DOING BUSINESS OVER THE YEARS A PERSON THAT HAS TIME TO CONTACT YOU 20 TIMES DURING THE DAY UNTIL YOU PAY THEM AND THEN WHEN PAYMENT IS GIVEN THEY DISAPPEAR ,IT MAKES YOU WORRY. I FIND IT OFFENSIVE AND NOT CIVIL. I AM A GOOD PERSON AND WANT TO BELONG HERE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND FEEL BAD THAT THE PERSON I WAS DEALING WITH DECIDED TO MENTION HIS NAME HERE. I DID NOT DO THAT I ONLY ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HAVING ISSUES DEALING WITH OTHER MEMBERS IN TRANSACTIONS. HE WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THE NAME CALLING AND TELLING ME I WAS ACTING STUPID. I AM NOT A STUPID PERSON AND I HAVE WORKED HARD FOR THE LITTLE MONEY I HAVE. I WAS EXCITED ABOUT GETTING PLANTS TO WORK WITH WHILE MY CANCER SLOWLY DEVOURS MY BODY AND MY HEART QUITS OVER TIME. I AM WORKING THROUGH MY WORRIES AND DEPRESSION BY DOING SOMETHING THAT KEEPS MY MIND OFF MY ILLNESS. IF YOU HAD JUST PAID WHAT I DID FOR PLANTS ,CORMS OR ANYTHING ELSE AND THE PERSON HAD EMAILED YOU 20 TIMES ,MINE WAS 8 TIMES HIS WAS 20 AND YOU PAY AND GIVE THAT PERSON A RECEIPT AND THEN THEY DISAPPEAR YOU WOULD FREAK TOO. NOT AN EMAIL, A MESSAGE ON HERE OR A PHONE CALL OR TEXT . WHAT WOULD YOU THINK. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT HAPPENED AND IT MAKES ME FEEL BAD THAT THIS HAPPENED RIGHT FROM THE START ON THIS FORUM BECAUSE I NEEDED TO INTERACT WITH OTHER AS BEING ILL IS DEPRESSING ENOUGH AND STRESS CAUSES WORSE DECAY ON YOUR BODY. I AM ASKING MEMBERS THAT I OFFENDED FORGIVENESS IF I OFFENDED YOU AND ONLY WANTED TO BE TREATED LIKE I WOULD TREAT SOMEONE . I WORKED SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD AND NEVER DISRESPECTED ANYONE AND WHEN I SAID I WILL BE THERE OR CALL YOU OR CONTACT YOU I ALWAYS GAVE THE PERSON RESPECT AND TREATED THEM THE SAMEWAY I WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED SO IF I CAUSED THIS PERSON TO HATE ME SO BE IT. I HAVE HAD BETTER PERSONS HATE ME FOR LESS BUT ITS BECAUSE I DID NOT BOW TO THEM AND JUST GIVE UP I ASK WHERE MY TRACKING NUMBER WAS THAT WAS SAID IT WOULD BE PROVIDED THE NEXT MORNING. IF THAT IS A SIN ON HERE THEN I AM A SINNER AND SHOULD NOT BE HERE. IF THIS IS THE BEHAVIOR THAT PEOPLE ARE ACCUSTOM TO ON HERE THEN SO BE IT BUT ITS NOT WHAT I AM ACCUSTOM TO AND NO ONE NOT BEING CIVIL IN BUSINESS WON'T DO VERY MUCH BUSINESS. SO I HAVE SAID WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXACT COPY OF AN PM BETWEEN US SINCE HE SO ELEQUANTLY DECIDED TO BROADCAST WHAT WAS GOING ON BETWEEN US HERE IN PUBLIC I DID THE SAME. AS FOR SENDING HIM A WORM AS HE ACCUSED ,REST ASSURED THAT IF I WANTED TO CAUSE COMPUTER PROBLEMS IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A WORM BUT SOMETHING MUCH WORSE. I DO NOT DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS ALTHOUGH I WORKED IN THE INDUSTRY FOR OVER 30 YEARS PLUS AND HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO DO SO I WOULD NEVER . IT ISN'T ETHICAL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT IS A MISTAKE ,MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WITH NO MORALS DID THAT BUT I DID NOT . SO WITH THAT BEING SAID MAYBE NOW SINCE HE REPLIED I CAN WAIT TO SEE HOW MY PLANTS COME IN AND THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE I WILL TRY TO DO BUSINESS SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE JUST GET MY PLANTS FROM A GROVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. GEEZ NO WONDER THE U S IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE. JUST TERRIBLE BUSINESS AND SELLERS




I did not send you a worm....I don't have any such thing on my system. I spent 30 years plus in technology and know how to prevent such a thing and if I would have sent you something destructive it would not have been anything as simple as a worm. I am not a vindictive person. I asked nicely that you reply , I left a message on your phone and I did not bring your name into the public area that was your idea. I am old and have heart issues and head and neck cancer that puts me under a lot of stress, I was only excited and anxious to get my plants and get going. I am a natural born worrier and after not hearing not one message on here or in email or phone call after paying you and you saying you would send a tracking number first thing in the morning then I freaked. I am very very ill and plants and working with them when I feel like it helps me not to dwell on my illness. I feel that when doing business and I have been in business all my life since age of seven when I say I am going to do something I do it. I am nice to people and they have always come back when wanting to do more business. Call me an 8 year old child if you want ,call me what you want, but don't tell me I sent you anything virus, malware or anything else. I don't do things like that but do know people that can track and put an end to people hacking others and shut them down. I don't know where you got the idea I sent you a worm. Listen I know I am not the only person in the world you do business with and don't expect you to give me your attention every second every minute but I do expect civil behavior and no disrespect. If you did not want to bother with me about plants cancel my order and give me my money back. That is all you had to do. In the future you should think before you write to me in anger. I am new here and don't expect to be treated like a dog ,I am a human and a good human that would do anything for anyone one. Like I said if you want to cancel and give me a refund that is acceptable. You should also be a little more careful accusing me in public of something like sending a worm to you . Frankly I don't give a **** if we do business or not anymore or not. If you want to send send and if you don't give me my money back and forget it. That is all I have to say and if you cut me down again you will get it right back in your face. I have dealt with mean spirited people like you before and they did not like me when I got back in their face.. so I would re think what you are doing and say I am sorry I did not contact you . If you cancel and I get a notice of cancellation from paypal and money back that is fine and I get the money back we will just call it a draw but if you send and they are crappy expect me not to be happy. As far as sending you a worm you are dead wrong. I never ever would do that to anyone.
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Glad that is settled. Looks like the corms should arrive tomorrow. If there are further problems, deal with it directly and quit calling names here, it's against the forum rules.

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Phew, Thought we were going to have a Banana war.

Like the new President elect said the other night, Lets unite and grow banana's.
Wasn't he referring to Bananas?
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Phew, Thought we were going to have a Banana war.

Like the new President elect said the other night, Lets unite and grow banana's.
Wasn't he referring to Bananas?
I thought he said Bananas too!
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Sorry I caused such a stink on here. It was unintentional and not meant in a bad way. I was delighted to see my corms arrive today from Pukputz . His corms are magnificent and excellent in every way . I would highly recommend buying from him . I appreciate his patience with an OLD sick man and his product arrival gave me an extra boost of happy and excitement this morning. Thank you once again Joe for the wonderful corms. Please forgive my behavior. His corms are A+++ /
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Phew, Thought we were going to have a Banana war.

Like the new President elect said the other night, Lets unite and grow banana's.
Wasn't he referring to Bananas?
Happy dance ,happy dance.. :-)
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