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Old 12-30-2009, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Fool us twice, shame on us.

I've noticed a strange influx of new members with similar writing styles and/or avatars who post once (or a few times) and then never post again. Most of them are continuing to sign in though, but haven't added any additional profile information. I'm about to make some sweeping assumptions, but after the Eric ordeal*, I think it's in our best interest. If I am wrong about any of them, I'll gladly apologize; however, when asked what they need to know, the question is avoided and no pictures are made available. Instead, they just get dozens of "Welcomes" and "Enjoy it here" comments from real people that the new members sadly never respond to. For the most part, these people have joined since the banning of Eric/Seaner.

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http://www.bananas.org/f11/we-leaving-10602.html
http://www.bananas.org/f11/erics-fal...ims-10608.html

Here is what I am talking about...

Note: "I am..." "I have..." "I live in..." "I joined..." and spaces between thoughts in the first few.









Sorry about all the screenshots. I've never seen this many illegitimate new members. Has anyone else noticed this trend?
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Okay...I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of these new members. There are ALWAYS a bunch of people who join forum sites, do an intro and never post after that (or don't even do an intro). This is nothing new. Honestly, I think you're just being paranoid. And for the record, since when are you in charge of policing this site?

And as for the 'Eric ordeal' as you called it....whether or not Eric are Sean are one in the same (and I still don't believe they are after talking with both of them in detail) one thing is for sure....you successfully hurt at least one person's feelings which is unacceptable. In the future, I think you should spend more time working on being accepting/kind to others being helpful rather than scrutinizing every person that joins this site. This is not YOUR forum, Taylor....it is all of ours to share. Let the mods and admin do their jobs.

I think it's time for you to move on from that situation and stop dwelling on the past.

I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful when I say any of these things...just honest.

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lmao, congratulations Taylor, you have figured out this conspiracy against you. Heres your award. You should feel real priviledged, because i only give this out to a select few douche nozzles.

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Taylor, aash09 is a friend of mine, and a wife of someone you know here. You might want to do a little editing.
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Mitchel,
I won't edit the original post unless she really wants me to. I try to keep my original posts intact.

Instead, I'm sorry Annie. You just never know who is who on the internet, I hope it's understandable. Thanks for the heads up, Mitchel. Who knows if there are any more personae that can't deciphered without Mod/Admin capabilities.

By the way, why did you sign off of AIM, Bryan, and now Eric is signing on with your same icon? He has never signed on before, and you have always been the one online. For everyone else reading this, I have them on my AIM contact list from a long time ago, never talked though.
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Food for thought, everyone else thinks it's a joke but I come here to learn something..... then when you can help someone they crap all over you... Just at the last time I posted on one of seaner or what ever is name was before he was banned.......(one of his last threads)
The only thing is he did pm me & said he was sorry...... for what its worth I think it was not a good thing for this site.....
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Just to put this a little more in perspective: Taylor was once banned for having multiple accounts and a bit of misbehavior, and then after asking Jarred for a second chance the forum members at the time agreed to let by-gones be by-gones.

I feel that if you suspect there is some bad activity -- you should report it to the moderators and allow them to discuss it, with Jarred if they feel it is necessary. If nothing is done about your concern then leave it alone. In the bigger scheme of things it is apparently something you should not be concerned about.
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By the way, why did you sign off of AIM, Bryan, and now Eric is signing on with your same icon? He has never signed on before, and you have always been the one online. For everyone else reading this, I have them on my AIM contact list from a long time ago, never talked though.
LOL...I didn't realize I had to tell big brother I was signing off AIM. Actually the network here at the university went down for an hour or two. And Eric signed on before the internet died cause I was talking to him when it went down. I find it truly amusing how much creepy stalking you do to others. I think you may have some trust issues....but I'm no psychologist.


PS...Taylor, I hope you can realize at this point how ridiculous and out of hand this is getting. It's time to move on, bro. I mean, you're accusing innocent people (and even ME!?) of being Eric. It's getting to the point of delusional, man.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Elvis & Aash, Taylor did say he would apologize if he was wrong and I do see his point! He had his intuitions & was correct. And, I do not think he is paranoid AT ALL. I read those 2 links/threads Taylor posted and WOW. Isn't it obvious that Eric is Sean & that he's nuts??!! They write the same...talk the same. Why was Sean always speaking for Eric? "Eric says... Eric is..." I missed out on both those threads till now...I was gone that wkend. Think about this. Eric signed up here in May, all of a sudden Seaner signs up in November (Seaner's location was Denver). Where was he all this time before? I don't think Eric has any friends, except his 'puter. He was posting here all hours of the day (Sean said they had LOTS of friends).
There is a way that Jarred can look up the address of people posting here. On the citrus forum, a guy was banned & tried to join using a diff screen name but the administrator caught it. I don't know how that works, but that guy could not sign on at all - with any screen name.
I see exactlly what Taylor is talking about... most of those new ppl signed on in Dec prolly since Eric was banned.
After reading the 2 threads, Eric is really scary! I feel sorry for him -- that he is STARVING for attention. I got several pm's from Sean on about the 11th &14th(?) They were very strange & I then ALSO suspected he was Eric.
Seaner also said that Eric is mentally challenged & "their" Dad wrote for him. WRONG! I got a pm from the dad saying he does not interfere with Eric being on the forum. His writing is completely diff from Eric. I'll go find those pm's if anyone wants.
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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[quote=Richard;116048]Just to put this a little more in perspective: Taylor was once banned for having multiple accounts and a bit of misbehavior, and then after asking Jarred for a second chance the forum members at the time agreed to let by-gones be by-gones.
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That was low Richard, but then, that's how you are. I've seen you pick fights w/ several ppl here where I thought you woulda been banned. You are not one to point a finger!!
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Taylor means well, and unfortunately, innocent people get dragged into it all. Chances are most of those posts if not all are legitimate new members. Let's welcome new members properly and not take them to kangaroo court.

Keep in mind that people who do come here to cause problems and play games with alter aliases and having conversations with themselves, manipulation games, etc., will consume your time - and when they do, they win. That's the only way they win is by consuming your time and efforts. So to minimize the impact, lets deal with problems as they arise and not magnify or multiply those things any more than necessary.
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?Richard? , when some one rips on you how would you take it? proably not good. Also if someone rips on you, how is that not your problem? I did not have to go to the higher ups because they banned him...... proably on the thread he treated me.... Sad thing is I have no Idea what the past everyone is talking about or care to waste my time on looking up..... richard before I read alot of your post & thought of you very respectfull & helpfull, now I don't know.... & richard you was one of the higher ups in my list.........oh did I not forget it was my birthday thank you ..................
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Keep in mind that people who do come here to cause problems and play games with alter aliases and having conversations with themselves, manipulation games, etc., will consume your time - and when they do, they win. That's the only way they win is by consuming your time and efforts. So to minimize the impact, lets deal with problems as they arise and not magnify or multiply those things any more than necessary.
IM NOT MAKING FUN OF ANYONE BUT I HAVE SUSPECTED THAT A FEW PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND OTHER SITES MAY HAVE ALTER ALIASES.. THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE WHO MAY EVEN HAVE PETER PAN SYNDROME..IT DOES NOT REALLY BOTHER ME AS LONG AS THEY DON'T TRY ANYTHING WEIRD OUTSIDE OF THE SITE.. I JUST TRY TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WHEN IM TALKING TO AN "OFF" PERSON OR ANY OF THEIR DISSOCIATIVE PERSONALITIES. I TRY NOT MAKE A REAL BIG DEAL OF IT..BELIEVE ME I HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE..THE MORE YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE CLOSER YOU'LL GET TO A STRAIT JACKET YOURSELF.

had to clarify this message..this was not an angry message.i was not taking anyones side.. if no one is causing immediate harm to you.. let em have their fun. i try not to call anyone on anything i dont agree with anymore. there is a guy on this site who acts like a toddler. he sent a message to me telling me my plants suck..for no reason unprovoked. are there any posts firing back at him??? dont worry so hard.just let things go.. its not healthy.
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unfortunately, innocent people get dragged into it all. Chances are most of those posts if not all are legitimate new members. Let's welcome new members properly and not take them to kangaroo court.
Totally agreed....couldn't agree more! New people are new to this site and should be welcomed with praise and respect!

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Again...agreed! *cough*Taylor*cough*
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Well, this has gone past Facepalm, passed right through retarded, and it's quickly entering funnyville...

I put spaces between my thoughts too! Oh no! I must be Eric!

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Really? Wow. I must have one of the most boring, normal lives around. I mean what kind of sicko plays these sorts of games? Doing something like this would have NEVER occurred to me, and I'd like to think that most people involved with this org feel the same way. I just barely have enough time to be one person here, I can't imagine being 2 or 3. For me, being here is a privilege and I'm grateful for the contacts I've made and the information that has so willingly been shared by others.

So, to the game players, do the rest of us a favor: Turn off the damn computer, get your fat ass up and go outside and breathe some fresh air. Take a walk. Pet a dog. Plant something, ANYTHING. Eat a banana. Treat the helpful, generous people here with the same respect you think you deserve and quit wasting valuable time. Life is short, and you're wasting it.

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What strikes me as being funny is that whoever eric and seaner are, he/they are probably still here among us just as Taylor has suggested. Anyone can use a proxy server to have mults if they want to talk to themselves or create havoc, but as Jarred suggested, let the mods do their jobs. I'm sure if someone gets out of line they will deal with them as needed.
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there is a guy on this site who acts like a toddler. he sent a message to me telling me my plants suck..for no reason unprovoked. are there any posts firing back at him??? dont worry so hard.just let things go.. its not healthy.[/quote]

Hey I had to check out your plants that suck LOL I could not find them in your photo gallery I think they are very nice Sorry To get off the subject but I had to have a good laugh at this one wow what people will say that person must be very jelous over your garden because I think its very nice good work there
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