when to bring out of dormancy?

subsonicdrone · 03-14-2023, 04:29 PM

how far in advance of bringing them outside to be planted should i wake up these "dormant"
ensete ventricosum maurelli
i do have mite problems in the grow area and after taking this picture i noticed there were insects all over it so i cleaned them up a bit
so considering the bug problems when should i pot these up and put them under lights?

subsonicdrone · 04-02-2023, 08:55 AM

ok so i checked on some of the other "dormant" bananas and some were pretty hurting looking
this matoke was really tall when brought inside but had shrivelled up to the point where i figured i should pot it up now while there was still something left of it

and after some trimming

same with these mystery dwarf plants which i got free at the end of the growing season

just to experiment a bit i potted two of the four ensete ventricosum maurelli
the other two i will pot up a month later

after potting

this fiha 02 was looking so good i left it and will pot it a month after as well

this was done a week ago and here is what they look like now(yesterday)

cincinnana · 04-05-2023, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by subsonicdrone

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just to experiment a bit i potted two of the four ensete ventricosum maurelli
the other two i will pot up a month later

after potting

this fiha 02 was looking so good i left it and will pot it a month after as well

this was done a week ago and here is what they look like now(yesterday)

I see some of the plants were stored on their side.

beam2050 · 04-05-2023, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

I see some of the plants were stored on there side.

i talked with the drone. the gh on his ventilation system controls is faded, so thot it said HI.

cincinnana · 04-06-2023, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050

i talked with the drone. the gh on his ventilation system controls is faded, so thot it said HI.

Can you repeat that ...I don't understand what that means.?

beam2050 · 04-07-2023, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

Can you repeat that ...I don't understand what that means.?

just a joke that obviously didnt fly.

it blew

cincinnana · 04-08-2023, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050

just a joke that obviously didnt fly.

it blew

Just rephrase it so that a northerner can understand

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subsonicdrone · 04-10-2023, 05:17 PM

correct me if i am wrong, i am guessing too close to the hurricane pro so its growing sideways.... i actually haven't used fans this year though other than the forced air from the furnace

so after the responses i turned the "dormant" ones back upright
but first i will show the progress of the ones that were potted and went into the room with the lights

here are the "dormant" ones about a week ago after being propped up

here is what they looked like yesterday
they have been getting a little light leaking out from the other area and roots misted infrequently

the other ones i potted up are not doing much and or not looking that great

beam2050 · 04-11-2023, 06:58 AM

yeah, hurricane fans. looks like they went thru some pretty strong winds.

when i have had mine grow like that it seems like it takes something out of them. they don't straighten as fast as they first bend when the pot gets tipped. and they don't grow so good after they straighten some.

subsonicdrone · 04-11-2023, 07:05 AM

thanks for the tip
one winter i had a plant which was too tall so i propped it up on an angle
i kept rotating it when it changed directions and now that you mention it... that plant might have died

sirdoofus · 04-18-2023, 10:08 PM

I logged in today for the first time this season specifically looking for some input on this exact question.....so thank you for your post. How much water have you given them (I'm assuming its minimal) at this point and what is the temp/light situation in their current abode?

subsonicdrone · 04-20-2023, 08:53 PM

update pics first

you can see by the older pics that i potted them in rather wet soil
my thought was the root balls are bone dry so hopefully when they wick some water away the result is a good moisture level by the roots but i may have gone a little on the damp side

the maurelli liked it but they were growing without light and an all dried up root ball

the maurelli not in the pots but righted vertical again are being misted with water infrequently as i believe iowa did with his plants when waking them up

depending on the situation... if you have no room to wake them up and need to store dormant for a long winter season i would recommend ensete ventricosum maurelli...

as an aside
i would also like to try green dragan's method with this plant and basjoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650yBmEGSG4

subsonicdrone · 04-20-2023, 09:07 PM

no water since being potted up
around 17 to 22 C i am guessing and in a room with 2 1000W hps on 12 hrs per day but in a darker corner

subsonicdrone · 04-21-2023, 06:41 AM

another aside.... i noticed a basjoo pushing through the wood chips in the backyard while putting the coffee grinds on the pile this morning

another thread and pics to follow soon

all43 · 04-22-2023, 02:28 AM

My basjoo had pushed through their outside straw wrapped protection so I've released the beasts!!! Keeping an eye of the weather though, not expecting the soft new cigars to make it but all should be OK.

sirdoofus · 04-23-2023, 01:35 PM

Holy Crap!! - That guy really gets with the program. Looks like a full time job. But he does have a beautiful tropical garden in the frigid North.

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Originally Posted by subsonicdrone

as an aside
i would also like to try green dragan's method with this plant and basjoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650yBmEGSG4

subsonicdrone · 04-30-2023, 04:35 PM

well the fhia 02 did not fare as well as i thought
i pared it down a fair bit

subsonicdrone · 05-29-2023, 09:06 PM

so i ended up waiting until spring to wake these two up and slam them right outside in a partial sun location and the seem to have made it through and woke up just fine
potted and brought straight outside a week ago this is what they looked like

the free dwarf plants i acquired in the fall did not do so well with the dormant storing
this one looks like what i normally expect when a plant declines(if you are lucky) lots of pups

this one..... woah it actually pulled through and came back from the rotted dead mess that it was

update pic on one of the ventricosum which were woken up early

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