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Old 04-10-2018, 10:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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base has shrivelled but the new growth is progressing
I notice two things:

1. No suckers.
2. Compared to your first photo, almost all of the old leaves have died.

My plant is like yours in those respects. But, I know that my older leaves are dying sooner than they should. Does anybody know the cause?

As an experiment, I am thinking about spraying my plant with 250 ppm silver nitrate because it is an ethylene antagonist and ethylene promotes leaf abscission. See

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/...3/268.full.pdf

Also, I have a small fortune in silver nitrate gathering dust in my basement that I haven't used in 45 years. Who else but me hoards that kind of stuff? Ha, ha, ha, the advantages of being me.

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I notice two things:

1. No suckers.
2. Compared to your first photo, almost all of the old leaves have died.

My plant is like yours in those respects. But, I know that my older leaves are dying sooner than they should. Does anybody know the cause?

As an experiment, I am thinking about spraying my plant with 250 ppm silver nitrate because it is an ethylene antagonist and ethylene promotes leaf abscission. See

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/...3/268.full.pdf

Also, I have a small fortune in silver nitrate gathering dust in my basement that I haven't used in 45 years. Who else but me hoards that kind of stuff? Ha, ha, ha, the advantages of being me.
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The grey color of the solution is worrisome. I will have to investigate.
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The grey color of the solution is worrisome. I will have to investigate.
The "worrisome" grey color was from a precipitate caused by a chemical reaction with impurities in my tap water which is from Lake Michigan. I replaced it with distilled water and resprayed today. Incidentally, as a surfactant, I used Triton X-100 because it is a stronger surfactant than Tween 20. Even so, it takes at least 250 ppm Triton X-100 to prevent beading on banana foliage.

BTW, silver nitrate is not my best choice for ethylene antagonists. I am only using it for convenience. If I could afford it, I would use aminoethoxyvinylglycine (AVG), the active ingredient in the commercial PGRs, ReTain and PinCor. See

https://cropenhancement.valentbiosci...roducts/retain.

https://cropenhancement.valentbiosci...roducts/pincor

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Maybe, AVG can be used to increase the size of banana fruit.

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my banana plants were brought outside this weekend
i plan on re potting many of my plants but i started with the lasiocarpa
here is a before pic:
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during:
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after, with previous container beside it:
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it was in a 20 gal now in a 30 gal container:
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mine is in a hurry to put out new leaves with the cigar of the next unfurling before the last had opened completely
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first time posting to the gallery!
how is everyones musella lasiocarpa doing?
mine is on a roll!
likes the new container and warm weather up here
pretty good growth for 37 days after being brought outside
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In 10" pot:
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i was going to wait until the plant had reached its absolute maximum sixe for this season and then post a pic...
but i couldnt wait
at one point a while back raccoons decided to climb all over it breaking some leaves and breaking the centre
took a little while for leaves to emerge properly but it got over that and has been doing great this season
looking forward to seeing everyone else's lasiocarpa pics!


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The plant that I had picked up was mislabeled and is not a Lasi.

It is growing and looks nice but ain't what they said it was.

I need to get it to bloom to see what it is.
I think it is some sort of lilly.
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after doing a little reading today i am starting to doubt whether i have a lasiocarpa either!
this describes the stem as being %30 of the plant height
mine definitely does not fit that description
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after doing a little reading today i am starting to doubt whether i have a lasiocarpa either!
this describes the stem as being %30 of the plant height
mine definitely does not fit that description
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Your plant sure does look blooming size ....that is a nice one.

I hope it blooms so we can really tell.

Your garden space looks awesome.
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some cold windy rainy weather caused damage to emerging leaves and slowed down the
lasiocarpa, maybe?
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The plant that I had picked up was mislabeled and is not a Lasi.

It is growing and looks nice but ain't what they said it was.

I need to get it to bloom to see what it is.
I think it is some sort of lilly.
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If the portion of a petiole connecting to a leaf is swollen, it is a calathea. That swollen part of a calathea is called a "pulvinus."
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If the portion of a petiole connecting to a leaf is swollen, it is a calathea. That swollen part of a calathea is called a "pulvinus."
Thanks for the info..
My plant is not exhibiting the growth behavior like your plant and subsonicdrones.
This plant has a clumping habit.
I had a discussion with the previous owner who got it on a trade and the conclusion was..... There is no conclusion.
We believe it is some sort of plant in the lily family.
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Thanks for the info..
My plant is not exhibiting the growth behavior like your plant and subsonicdrones.
This plant has a clumping habit.
I had a discussion with the previous owner who got it on a trade and the conclusion was..... There is no conclusion.
We believe it is some sort of plant in the lily family.
I suppose it might be a spathiphyllum. It doesn't look like an eucharis lily.
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starting to show the effects of the cold

aruzinski do you have any more pics from this season?

i will update again when it is more ragged
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since this may not be musella lasiocarpa i hope i did not expose it to too cold of temperatures
also being in the container would be colder for it
i was contemplating piling wood chips around the container in a big mound covering the p stem as well
i think i will just bring it indoors soon

on the bright side
no spider mites indoors this year
they always loved this plant

(keeping on top of a small scale(mealybug) problem but almost pest free this year)
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since this may not be musella lasiocarpa i hope i did not expose it to too cold of temperatures
also being in the container would be colder for it
i was contemplating piling wood chips around the container in a big mound covering the p stem as well
i think i will just bring it indoors soon

on the bright side
no spider mites indoors this year
they always loved this plant

(keeping on top of a small scale(mealybug) problem but almost pest free this year)
You're kidding. Right?

I thought that your plant was a better variety than mine because it had shorter petioles. Where did you get it?
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rice road nurseries ... i think
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it usually dies back each fall even indoors in decent conditions
i figured i would let it die back in the cold this year

what makes me think it is not musella lasiocarpa is its size
and the shortness of the pstem in relation to the leaf length

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