Musa ornata "Milky Way" heading toward extinction. - Page 2

flaflowerfloozie · 02-01-2015, 08:53 PM

I was at Lue gardens today, the imagination garden area has itinerans burmese blue traveling a long distance 6-8 feet from parent and I saw a small mat of musa ornata milky way. I would post pics but the system says everything was loaded and accepted fine and successful but they never appear. Sorry folks.

Snarkie · 02-02-2015, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Worm_Farmer

I also did not know Leu Gardens was owned by the City of Orlando, but it is close to the Orlando Science Center. It was very cool to go see dinosaur bones, then have a picnic at Leu Gardens.

I think I was there in 1998. Is that the place with a sign about alligators along the water, and has a big green tree with a LOT of thorns on the trunk?

Or, is it the place with a boardwalk that goes through a waterway with lots of tropical plants?

Clinton3666 · 07-30-2017, 09:35 PM

Hi members,
Seven past years later and I still did not got seeds or cultured tissues of musa ornata "Milk Way" !

Worst is the bad person Amanda (alemily) I asked the person to send me the fresh seeds of "Milky Way", but the person made an excuse by said " I do not ship seeds outside USA"
I got very angry with Amanda and told Amanda about I had been waited for 17 past years for seeds to be available to me and "Milky Way" were the most difficult plants for both USA people and people outside USA, to look for and to get, and Amanda did not listened to me and said the same excuse "I do not ship seeds outside USA"
This upset me very much, after waited for 17 past years for seeds / cultured tissues of "Milky Way" to be available to me.

scottdurand · 07-30-2017, 09:41 PM

If one in my clump flowers this year I can ship you some seeds from Louisiana.

Richard · 07-30-2017, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clinton3666

: PLEASE do NOT let the musa ornata "Milky Way" heading toward extinction.

Extinction is a term for species, not cultivars. Further, seeds of a banana cultivar will not sprout entirely true to type.

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Originally Posted by Clinton3666

I asked the person to send me the fresh seeds of "Milky Way", but the person made an excuse by said " I do not ship seeds outside USA"

If you knew the laws, fees, and fines for exporting plant material from the U.S. perhaps you would not complain.

Snarkie · 08-01-2017, 04:13 PM

That's why I labeled the Poncirus trifoliata v. Flying Dragon as "Back Scratchers."

badman62 · 11-09-2017, 11:33 AM

FYI...

Musa Ornata seeds
Musa ornata - Bronze Banana - Seeds

aruzinsky · 11-18-2017, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Extinction is a term for species, not cultivars.

You are right for a change. I had to look it up:
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ex·tinc·tion

/ikˈstiNG(k)SH(ə)n/

noun

1. the state or process of a species, family, or larger group being or becoming extinct.
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But, it is correct to say, "The cultivar will become extinct.", because there is a loophole in the dictionary:
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ex·tinct

/ikˈstiNG(k)t/

adjective

•no longer in existence.
"an extinct language"
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NZBanana · 04-26-2018, 10:40 PM

. sorry for duplicate post.

NZBanana · 04-26-2018, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clinton3666

Hi members,
Seven past years later and I still did not got seeds or cultured tissues of musa ornata "Milk Way" !

Worst is the bad person Amanda (alemily) I asked the person to send me the fresh seeds of "Milky Way", but the person made an excuse by said " I do not ship seeds outside USA"
I got very angry with Amanda and told Amanda about I had been waited for 17 past years for seeds to be available to me and "Milky Way" were the most difficult plants for both USA people and people outside USA, to look for and to get, and Amanda did not listened to me and said the same excuse "I do not ship seeds outside USA"
This upset me very much, after waited for 17 past years for seeds / cultured tissues of "Milky Way" to be available to me.

Seed for Musa ornata should be fine to send. I checked the MPI Biosecurity Index and they are fine for import into New Zealand. Did you ever manage to get any? Strange that they would not ship seed to you! I'm keen to purchase a pup. I see there is a person on ebay selling seeds as well.

Tytaylor77 · 04-28-2018, 09:25 AM

Be careful buying seeds on eBay. Most here in the US are fake!

Rarepalmseeds and Mark Davies are awesome sources for seeds!

I grow Milky Way! It’s finally starting to get ok sized! I plan on planting in the ground here in a month or so. It’s been a slow grower for me!

NZBanana · 04-28-2018, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

Be careful buying seeds on eBay. Most here in the US are fake!

Rarepalmseeds and Mark Davies are awesome sources for seeds!

I grow Milky Way! It’s finally starting to get ok sized! I plan on planting in the ground here in a month or so. It’s been a slow grower for me!

Thanks for that advice. I will see what I can find from Rarepalmseeds and Mark Davies.

Lilith · 03-18-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Clinton3666

Hi members,
As I am still looking for musa ornata "Milky Way"

I were told the musa ornata "Milky Way" were disappearing from nurseries in world and seems confined to Thailand.

Musa ornata "Milky Way" were heading toward extinction in USA and Austria & Europe.

Resently Plant-Group told me they no longer have "Milky Way".

The owner of Achim's banana shop were a very bad man and were rude to a member of Bananas.org & abused him. He had money budgeting problems.
He also stealing money from his friends & owners of nurseries & some members of Bananas.org by tricked them into send money to him by lying to them.

Gina Anne (Lilith) is only woman in USA I know, to had growing musa ornata "Milky Way" at her place, but she is not helpful and is not willing to sell or give away to members of Bananas.org. Few years ago I got angry with her when she made an exuse by said "sorry, I do not do international mailing."

A woman named Linda (Lindra-GEL) lives in Austria and was a helpful woman and would like to send me some musa ornata "Milky Way", but her plants had not produced suckers yet. I been very helpful toward her & adviced her about how to grow musa ornata "Milky Way". I have to wait for 1-2 next years before I get suckers from her. She know about Achim's banana shop.

I worried I not able to import tissue cultures of musa ornata "Milky Way" to New Zealand and if I cannot get hold of musa ornata "Milky Way", the plants will be extinct in 10 years time from now.

The banana plant breeder Cheesman had died 50 years ago.
He hybridized musa velutina and musa flaviflora and then backcrossed them to produce hybrid "Milky Way"
I do not know about musa flaviflora were a wild banana plant and may be an other name for either musa ornata or musa velutina.

I were planning to hybridize pink-flowered musa ornata and musa velutina & backcross the hybrid plants to try to breed "Milky Way" at my place.
That will take years.

Unless we must save musa ornata "Milky Way" these plants will face extinction.

This means I must have them by Sept this year.

To export the plants means they need to be tissue cultured and tissue cultures will be send to New Zealand to me.

PLEASE do NOT let the musa ornata "Milky Way" heading toward extinction.

Cheers

Clinton.

Wow, what a blast from the past to come on and read my name from 2009 and hear that someone is/was angry at me for not being willing to ship a banana plant to them through the International mail. I have been absent not only from this forum but from taking care of my (rather large) collection of (some rare some not) plants for 10 years. Almost since this original post was made. Because I had an illness in my family that made it necessary for me to kind of drop all but the most basic care of my plants, and drop all of my social media with my plant hobby, and drop all of my trading and going to plant sales, and all of my memberships in plant organizations, to deal with one on one 24/7 for the last 10 years. Its gotten better, so much so that last August, I was finally able to start to come back to my hobby. Clinton, if you are still around, I stopped trading plants even before that happened with people who do not also live in the state of FLORIDA because the USA agricultural regulations have gotten so strict that it has made almost any instance where a normal person who sends a plant that has any roots on it (and some states, just ANY PLANT cutting rooted or whatever) is actually BREAKING THE LAW because they do not possess a valid NURSERY LICENSE. So I am sorry you were angry that I would not spend time digging up, sanitizing, packing and going down and spending $35 USD for a single Phytosanitary certification, then obtaining an export permit to legally mail it out of the country, and spending an exorbitant amount of money on postage to mail it over seas. During my absence from plant maintenance, I developed a new indoor hobby, beadwork. I sometimes buy beautiful glass cabochons from a glass artist in LATVIA. She can send ME the glass piece for $5 by her postal system. If there was a problem and I needed to send it back, it would cost me $62.50. I am sorry if you never got a Musa Milky way. If its any consolation to you, I lost mine while I was busy being a caretaker for my ill family member. So now neither one of us have one.

HMelendez · 03-18-2019, 07:54 AM

Gina,

Nice to hear from you again and to see that you are back in the forum!.....

Lilith · 03-18-2019, 04:56 PM

Its nice to be back. Our local garden fest is this weekend, hope I get some new bananas!

Clinton3666 · 03-19-2019, 05:36 AM

lilith,
Thankyou for telling me about this.

That's OK, I accept your apology.

Have good time grow your beautiful plants.

I understand.

Cheers

Clinton.

pjkfarm · 05-17-2019, 07:48 PM

Cameras are answer to thefts for us - big signs at entrances saying they are there and then a few in prominent places and people stop doing bad things!

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