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Old 10-02-2014, 11:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi there, pretty sure this is my first post here but I have been lurking around for a while.I didn't want to hijack anybody elses post to ask some questions so I thought it best to start a new topic.

I bought this one and 2 others at the end of season on the discount rack at HD and wintered them in the garage last year.While they seemed to fill out nicely I didn't manage to get much vertical growth. Any suggestions for fertilizer (what and how often) I am pretty new to palms and tropicals so any help would be great


I am in Abbotsford BC which I think is Zone 8b depending on the map I look at and this one gets full sun until 5 pm or so ( pic is taken facing south) the other two are in the back yard and get full sun from about 10am until sun down. I watered every day but really wasn't sure about ferts so that was pretty sporadic.

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plenty of water sun sun sun and 6-6-6 should make her very happy.
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Hi Nat,

I am re-posting below an original post of mine from: Wintering E. Maurellii in HZ8,-7 or 6?

It all relates to a great picture report by a German, documenting the whole life of his E. Maurelii.
Re: Wintering here: Bilder von Familie End aus Jöhlingen
Unfortunately it is in German, but that is easily handled, as I have shown then and repeated here:

The climate in Jöhlingen is very similar to Abbotsford (i.e. soggy in summer and balmy in winter )
QUOTE:
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I wish I could read German UNQUOTE
It is actually quite easy: Just Click on "Select all" " Copy" then open up:
https://translate.google.ca/
and dump it all into the left window.

Then select 'German' above that window and select 'English' in the right one and, viola,
all is translated, not always all that well, but you can usually make sense of it. I have
done that for you here with part 1.
You can easily relate the written text by the dates. Just note, that the Germans
write their dates by international standard as does your bank: DD.MM.YYYY

QUOTE
part 1

Documentation " Ensete ventricosum Maurellii "

2006 to 2008

Scroll page with 46 pictures!

The Maurellii I have received and planted in the spring of 2006.

On 08/09/2006 I have potted it and placed in the sun . I backed up the root system , as I
propped the trunk.

20/10/2006 : The warmed by the sun pot has ensured good growth in late again . From
this point, the soil should not be too moist . It is desirable to bring the species with
relatively dry soil into winter quarters.

10.11.2006 : The first winter . The leaves were shortened down to the last leaf to two-thirds.
The temperature was around 10 ° C , the light is very weak and without additional
lighting .

06.04.2007: She looks a little taken , but must continue to be kept dry.

12.05.2007 : The ordeal is over. The growth can begin.

07/06/2007 : It has already risen . In addition to the Basjoos it seems rather small.

05.08.2007 : The petioles have already become strong.

The trunk circumference measured 10cm above the earth's surface can be seen.

12/08/2007 : The Basjoos it has caught up to half . They were fertilized in 14-day cycle
with dissolved Blaukorn to the previously well moistened soil . The fertilizer solution
consisted of 10 liters of water and a handful of blue corn .

19/08/2007 : Here the size is clear.

28.10.2007 : The trunk circumference measured 10cm above the earth's surface , was
in the spring 46cm . It has grown to 126cm . The shrub has exceeded 4 meters to the
blade tip.

10.11.2007 : Now it's going into winter quarters. The leaves were all cut down to short
stubs . Also the spear.

On the roots I have no consideration . About 10cm apart from the stem, I tapped the
roots of a spade blade length deep.

The shrub is still very difficult . She comes into the basement at about 10 ° C and almost
no light . The basement has only a very small window .

02/12/2007 : Here it is in a large pot with absolute dryness. I've poured over the winter
even once. The roots are dried up .

The growth she has never set over the winter completely. She had to be shortened
every 2 to 3 weeks.

18.04.2008: Since the growth had increased , I have decided it relatively early replant
again .

Of useful roots is not much to see.

The soil preparation was already in late year.

After months, she finally gets back water and sun.

As a growth aid and protection from possible freezing nights I put a plastic greenhouse
over it.

04/05/2008 : As the spear had reached the roof , I have the film house and the ground
covered with foil for the purpose of warming up .

18.05.2008 : The Maurellii had very many and long roots have formed , since they could
no longer move .

31/05/2008 : Up to this point, the Maurellii of all shrubs had reached the highest growth .

29/08/2008 : What a flower !

18/09/2008 : Oh man , the fat man!

Here you can clearly see the cross section of a petiole .

08/11/2008 : Although the lower leaves were yellow and I removed it , it grows more
lively. We have had no frost .

The tape measure is no longer sufficient . The girth has exceeded 1.5 meters.

15.11.2008 : Since we had the first frosty night , I decided to dig them and put in the
basement. The last photo in the implanted state. The Cannas are already in winter quarters.

As Ausgrabhilfe I have attached a wheelbarrow with straps on pseudostem . I have already
cut off the lower leaves .

The earth was dug a spade blade length.

The root ball was tapped at an angle of approximately 45 °.

With the wheelbarrow I could pull out of the hole. The erection of the barrow I could
not. She was so heavy that the retaining clips have bent.

With much effort, I could put them on a hand truck .

Prior to the basement entrance .

This was from the roots left.

These 3 steps had to be mastered .

The goal is achieved. After a few minutes, formed under the perennial small puddles. The
gigantic water tank dripped water from the leaf axils and the interfaces of the petioles .
This winter, they must overwinter in an inclined position , as it has become too large for
the basement. It remains on the hand truck and overwinters almost dark at approximately 10 ° C.

After this hard work you have earned more than a beer .

23/12/2008 : Just as last winter , it also grows more slowly this time . Since they decency
on the wall , I have shortened to 30cm .

Click here for Part 2 , from 2009
UINQUOTE

If you print that out and have it available when you open that site, then you can relate
the texts to the pictures. I believe, that every new paragraph relates to a new photo.

Now you can do the same with Part 2 yourself, if you are so inclined or with any other
Text from other language

Oh by the way Google Translate leaves out the pictures automatically if you copy the
whole page at once.

Good luck,
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I know nothing about the variety, but that is a very pretty plant. Thank you for sharing it.
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Awesome plant..
Mine are in containers and I will bring them in soon..
That is the max SHAPE your plant will get.
However next year will be 2x or 4x the current size.
Each year your plant wil get more ROBUST
You will have an awesome plant next year..

I feed with 19.19.19 a general garden fertilizer with acceptable results.
A miracle grow type fert is also acceptable.
Any general garden type fertilizer will work with good results

Time to dig them up and bring them in
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Olaf, thanks for the article. I had read that last year but I haven't been able to find it again.

Cincinnana, I am getting the idea that I just didn't feed it enough. Which on one had is good because digging this out is going to be hard enough.
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Cincinnana, I am getting the idea that I just didn't feed it enough. Which on one had is good because digging this out is going to be hard enough.
What kind of growth were you expecting from your Maurellii....looks like a well shaped and taken taken care of plant to me for its age.
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What kind of growth were you expecting from your Maurellii....looks like a well shaped and taken taken care of plant to me for its age.
Its possible that my expectations were unreasonable but I thought that they would hit the 8' mark, But as you said they have great shape and they are healthy so if the size comes next year that will be just fine.
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Mine are in pots, and partial shade, they reached about 6 feet this year from 8 inch plants received in march, but I am pretty sure they would have gotten much taller in the ground, probably closer to 8 feet at least. My ensete glaucum germinated last december and is now 10 feet at the top leaf, also grown in partial shade, but it grew much faster than any other banana or banana relative I have tried. I just feed them miracle grow 2 times a week, instead of the once per week or two weeks listed on the box, and I get no burn.
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