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Old 03-10-2010, 03:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi fellas,
yesterday I promised some pictures but didn't have enough energy later that day, so I'm posting those pix now. And since I couldn't find appropriate thread, I decided to post everything I grow from seeds obtained on this forum straight into this thread.

So here goes the first:

Ante's Washingtonia filifera seeds:



Thanks to all who made this possible: Ante, ... and the heater.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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That's a lot!They look nice! How do you plan to divide them?
I've bought 100 W. filifera seeds online in February, most of them had germinated already - some in a cup of water, some in an old pot w/no heat, at 22-27C. Germination rate is about 90%.
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Haha Jack!
Looking pretty good
Hey dont forget to thank to my boss for using basket truck for "non electican" issues
Thats the only way to get really fresh seed
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That's a lot!They look nice! How do you plan to divide them?
I've bought 100 W. filifera seeds online in February, most of them had germinated already - some in a cup of water, some in an old pot w/no heat, at 22-27C. Germination rate is about 90%.
Yep. And they germinate pretty fast. I already saw the soil moving above some other seeds too, so there will be more to look at soon.
Nice addition to my 100 palms I have in the garden and basement. I intend to plant them all over the place and hope that at least few will survive.
I found my microclimate temperature already and even though Bratislava's worst temp this year was -15°C, it was slightly less than -11°C (and to mention that this was one the worst winter here since 1987!!!). So in the end I am something like a zone 8 and they could stand a chance. Btw. these are the first Washingtonia filiferas I have. I had only rubustas before. Yuri, want some palms? I have several spare ones, but you'd have to figure out how can I get them past the Schengen zone.


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Heh, cool. I would also consider climbing those palms... I just love climbing trees and palms!
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When you have such a lot, you can afford to experiment. My filifera survived outside only due to protection I gave it. We had an awful winter here and it still lasts - worst since 1985 (we've beaten you, he-he ). This year I'm intended to try s. minor and r. hystix outside, if i find a decent place for them.

As for getting past the Schengen zone - thanks for the offer, there's few scenarios - we can believe the b*****it current Ukrainian "President" says (moos, to be more precise) and wait one year for the visas and all that stuff to be cancelled and still get nothing because it's science fiction.
And the other way is I can ask for the help of my bamboo-nut pal, who lives on Slovak border in Uzhhorod I guess he has some experience in this area
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That's a lot!They look nice! How do you plan to divide them?
I've bought 100 W. filifera seeds online in February, most of them had germinated already - some in a cup of water, some in an old pot w/no heat, at 22-27C. Germination rate is about 90%.
When it gets warmer and they are literally stuffed in the pot I just turn the pot upside down, divide the roots (most seedlings will still only have the leading root, no small roots) and quickly repot. Never failed.

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When you have such a lot, you can afford to experiment. My filifera survived outside only due to protection I gave it. We had an awful winter here and it still lasts - worst since 1985 (we've beaten you, he-he ). This year I'm intended to try s. minor and r. hystix outside, if i find a decent place for them.

As for getting past the Schengen zone - thanks for the offer, there's few scenarios - we can believe the b*****it current Ukrainian "President" says (moos, to be more precise) and wait one year for the visas and all that stuff to be cancelled and still get nothing because it's science fiction.
And the other way is I can ask for the help of my bamboo-nut pal, who lives on Slovak border in Uzhhorod I guess he has some experience in this area
Užhorod lives only for migration and smuggling. lol, former Slovaks will not lose in this world, they will make profit out of everything. Yuri, don't be so sad about your president, watch the video in my signature and be glad that you are a member of an alliance, that can last more than 15 years. We might get behind you once the EU breaks down.
Besides, you can't fight your neighbours. They are your neighbours. You will be living alongisde each other for a veeeeery long time.
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Jack, I've already watched it...yesterday LOL! It's a bit "conspiracytheorish", but makes some sense overall. And the EUCCCP sign is amazingly funny!
We're not trying to fight our neighbours, we're just asking to leave us alone. All the problems happening here is only due to the communist heritage - in fact, all the current politicians are former commies. These problems can't be solved by a revolution (unless it's real a bloody bath no one wishes for) - only by evolution. Our state and people are just too young and wild, so, let the time pass.

Thanks for advice on washie seedlings, next time I'll do it your way.

Jack, are there some cupressus sempervirens in your vicinity? It's one of my favourite plants, there quite a few growing in Kherson and around. Do you have any experience growing them from seed? I'd love to make a hardier strain.
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Jack, I've already watched it...yesterday LOL! It's a bit "conspiracytheorish", but makes some sense overall. And the EUCCCP sign is amazingly funny!
If only it was a conspiracy. It's pretty true actually. Greece was already punished and will be enforced with European laws until they don't fullfil what EU demands... or leave, but once they leave, it will start to collapse.
Click on youtube and search for: Nigel Farage in EU... he pretty much uncovers what nobody tells us in our news.
Like this one: Who is the new European president nobody voted for?
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We're not trying to fight our neighbours, we're just asking to leave us alone. All the problems happening here is only due to the communist heritage - in fact, all the current politicians are former commies. These problems can't be solved by a revolution (unless it's real a bloody bath no one wishes for) - only by evolution. Our state and people are just too young and wild, so, let the time pass.
You can't ask Russia to leave anyone alone, we can't ask them, France can't ask them, no country in this world has enough power to ask them not to do something. They are superior in technology, resources, landmass, water reservoirs and after the fall of Iron Curtain you suddenly find out, that they own much more in the West, than Westerners (and I'm not talking only about Europe!). We are their customers. And if you want to heat up in winter, you have to listen. So must we, Germans...
Yep. Commees found their way everywhere, they rule the Europe now, but it's only because the capitalism came to a point, where it collapses on itself. Crisis etc... Each of those 2 ways: Com and Cap are dying.
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and this beautiful story (just like you said it) that repeats in Europe over and over again (because whether someone likes it or not, Communism was capable of creating much more money and power, than Capitalism). Lovely, how they wanted to silence him at the end: (4mins)
Look over the youtube, channels like ukipwebmaster, EUX.tv and others...

Regarding the time span, it took 300 years in France, which is pretty much the same size and population as Ukraine.

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Jack, are there some cupressus sempervirens in your vicinity? It's one of my favourite plants, there quite a few growing in Kherson and around. Do you have any experience growing them from seed? I'd love to make a hardier strain.
Lots of 'em, but not very hardy, winters here are not that cruel. And lots of them in Italy too. But those are even less hardy. No experience in growing them from seed though. They are like weed wherever they are planted.
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Cmmon Jack, we need updates on this one
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