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Old 05-27-2009, 04:06 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Have to notice that DC are much faster growers than SDC. I have one SDC in pot and one in free soil for about a month now and no sign of new growth at all. Both looks healthy but they are still sitting ducks. DC gives me new leaf every week.
Not at my place, Ante. I also found out, that SDCs stop growing, when they have a small pot. Interestingly, they need a little bit larger pots than DC, becasue they make about tripple or more times many pups...
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:08 PM   #102 (permalink)
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And what is that thing about counting leaves till bloom?
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:11 PM   #103 (permalink)
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And what is that thing about counting leaves till bloom?
Well, it's said that when the plant reaches its 60th leaf, it might flower or that it will flower only after it has pushed out 60 leaves since seeing the light.
I never tested this method, but is regarded to be quite ineffective and uncertain. Many cultivars can go much later, many at that time. You never know and the bloom is always a nice surprise, isn't it?
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:14 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Course!
I dont belive in that theory
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:51 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Will you try to overwinter some of your bananas also outside (if you have lowest lows about -3°C, than it shouldn't be a problem)?
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Will you try to overwinter some of your bananas also outside (if you have lowest lows about -3°C, than it shouldn't be a problem)?
Jack,
if there is -3°C for two or three hours it might not be a problem, but if it's that cold for 10,12 or more hours the pseudo stem of a cavendish or any other cultivar will be gone. The best chance I would give to an orinoco or dwarf orinoco followed by an brazilian/dwarf brazilian.
Maybe it can be saved with a temporary protection. For example a sheet over the entire plant and wrapping the pseudo stem.

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Old 05-28-2009, 03:24 AM   #107 (permalink)
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if there is -3°C for two or three hours it might not be a problem, but if it's that cold for 10,12 or more hours the pseudo stem of a cavendish or any other cultivar will be gone. The best chance I would give to an orinoco or dwarf orinoco followed by an brazilian/dwarf brazilian.
Maybe it can be saved with a temporary protection. For example a sheet over the entire plant and wrapping the pseudo stem.

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Yes, that's what I've seen people doing in zones 9 USDA, they wrap them and protect outside, just as we do it with our palms here in zones 7/8.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:38 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Will you try to overwinter some of your bananas also outside (if you have lowest lows about -3°C, than it shouldn't be a problem)?
I think that I will try that with 1/3 of my plants.
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I think that I will try that with 1/3 of my plants.
Nice go. I guess it will be the hardier third.
Btw. nice collection you have. Did you germinate that yourself? Or bought seedlings?
Hats down, if you germinated that bunch.
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I germinated all my seedlings. Thanks on compliment! U ll see bunch of velutinas in few day
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Great. Velutinas are only indoor in Slovakia. However they are quite small and have vry nicely coloured fruit skin.
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Yes only a bit higher than SDC. I ll try to grow them as home plants. Im just curious about balbisianas. They should be HUGE!
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Yes only a bit higher than SDC. I ll try to grow them as home plants. Im just curious about balbisianas. They should be HUGE!
Huge and black. And supposedly hardy. Might be worth a shot in your case. Wish you good luck. If that works for you, I'm moving to Makarska too...
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Hahaha Jack
We ll plant them arround Baska Voda to be thrue
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Baska Voda nie je v Makarskej?
I mean, isn't Baska voda in Makarska riviera?

12°C, cold... I took the Cavendish Naners home to warm and windless conditions. To give them a night of rest.
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Yes, it is on riviera. 8 km from city of Makarska.
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Some fu**** cold front from the Atlantic, thanks Western Europe. That's what hit the Marcel about one day earlier, than me. In 2 days, we are back to our 30/16 (day/night). At least according to the radars and meteo, so it might get a little bit hotter and drier than that.
Well, Ante, it's different, when you aren't heated up by a sea in the night, the temps usually go much lower, than in your country. Water has always been one of the best heat and energy mediums...

I've been to Croatia many times: Vodice, Split, Dubrovnik, Makarska (city) and of course some hidden playa out there, the hotel name was Pharaon or something like that. Wonderful bay, sandlike coast (although it was incomparable to Italian sand) - only nice memories, but that was back in 1996, I was maybe 8 then. For a brief period of time, I really thought that I would like to live there. But the frosts are discouraging. -3°C
Learning Croatian is a matter of 2 or 3 months at most, not only that I live in the village (close to our capital), that was a Cratian colony back in the Austrio-Hungarian monarchy, but Hrvatska can be heard a lot in here. Even your folklore groups come to play here and dance every now and then (more often than Slovaks )
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Hahaha Jack, on the end looks like we are cousines
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No, unfortuantely not.
I moved to this region only about 2 years ago, it's a village (and villa) part of Bratislava.

I myself am about 2/5 Hungarian, 3/5 Slavic, but that's quite in dispute... It's been almost solely Hungarian-Slovak marriages in my family. Well, this Central European region has had it's share of mixing:
Celts, Germanic, Frank, Roman (the city I live in was once Acquincum and Vindobonna fortress region), Slavic, Hungarian, Turkish ! and many other...

Ou how, there goes the secret of our mixed heritage...
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hi guys, im back hehe,
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