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Old 05-23-2009, 02:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey Jack dont be so "proffesional". It isnt all in nana talk here. Dont we all need a bit of socialisation and relaxation here talking and writting about all that comes arround.
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Hey Jack dont be so "proffesional". It isnt all in nana talk here. Dont we all need a bit of socialisation and relaxation here talking and writting about all that comes arround.
Come on!
Talking and discussing is fine, but talking politics, ethnical differences, religion, warfare... isn't. It never leads to anything good and even worse, statements can be misinterpreted, when you don't hear the intonation (such as my spa comment in Joachim's thread).
Then the differences occur and we all are slowly getting more and more distant.
And I would prefer for us to be friends, nourish on what we have in common, share what we want to teach others and learn, what others want to teach us.

Besides, I just saw your beautiful Monkey Fingers banana, YAKUZA, nice one. But you know it's a large plant, right? I think there won't be any room for pup development, 'course I might be wrong as well, just occured to me. I think it's too close to the wall, Musa 'Monkey Fingers' can be as high as 6 meters according to Agri-Starts.
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This is that Jack, talking about other themes besides naners. And I still belive in good will. I belive that differences among peoples here are blessings.
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This is that Jack, talking about other themes besides naners. And I still belive in good will. I belive that differences among peoples here are blessings.
Yep, agreed, but I don't want them to become something bad, if you know what I mean.
I hate the nights in here. Day max temperatures: 29°C, Night Low: 13°C. Bananas go dormant during the night. And Cavnedishes take slight damage. But still, they put always larger and larger leaves out, hurray!
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Horray for Cavendish
Today it was afull hot here. more than 35, even now it is 23-24. will rise till Thuesday. only sun burns old leaves but new ones are doing great.
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Today it was afull hot here. more than 35, even now it is 23-24. will rise till Thuesday. only sun burns old leaves but new ones are doing great.
Well I can't say I would like 35°C the whole day, but definitely more than 13°C in the night. But i must admit, that it's quite refreshing. And maybe it will do good to bananas, that they stop their cycle for the night and give it a rest.
My Musa 'Dwarf Cavendish' put its first red spot leaf, so it means it's juvenile now. One more reason to celebrate... Pups might be soon.
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Talking and discussing is fine, but talking politics, ethnical differences, religion, warfare... isn't. It never leads to anything good and even worse, statements can be misinterpreted, when you don't hear the intonation (such as my spa comment in Joachim's thread).
Then the differences occur and we all are slowly getting more and more distant.
And I would prefer for us to be friends, nourish on what we have in common, share what we want to teach others and learn, what others want to teach us.

Besides, I just saw your beautiful Monkey Fingers banana, YAKUZA, nice one. But you know it's a large plant, right? I think there won't be any room for pup development, 'course I might be wrong as well, just occured to me. I think it's too close to the wall, Musa 'Monkey Fingers' can be as high as 6 meters according to Agri-Starts.
i know its a large plant but i think its not growing 6 meters high in one season right?
i hope i get pups so i can share it with you guys.
in winter i dig it up. Keep the big stern and maybe next jear i plant it other place.
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i know its a large plant but i think its not growing 6 meters high in one season right?
i hope i get pups so i can share it with you guys.
in winter i dig it up. Keep the big stern and maybe next jear i plant it other place.
If the season is good, it might get 3 meters high and maybe more.
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If the season is good, it might get 3 meters high and maybe more.
you mean 3m stem or 3m stem end leaves?

i had 2 support the monkey fingers,all leaves coming out in same direction.
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you mean 3m stem or 3m stem end leaves?

i had 2 support the monkey fingers,all leaves coming out in same direction.
2,5 meters stem, 3 meter with the top leaf.

The leaves are probably coming out the same direction, because there's a wal behind them and so they hae no light from that part. My Musa 'Super Dwarf Cavendish' was doing that too, although with it's slow growth it was no problem.
Looking forward to pups already. I wonder, how tall they are before the 5 leaf. 1,5 meters? That will be a tough one. But beautiful plants with incredible raceme of fruit Musa 'Monkey Finger' is (this sounded like Yoda from Star Wars). Hope you will get some fruit the next year.

By the way, if you want the plant to pup a lot, it should be in a confined space, so a small pot, close to the wall, close to roads is ideal.
Like you have it. Where did you buy Musa 'Monkey Fingers' by the way? And the Musa 'Daijao'? Where do you have it from? I bought my Daijao from Netherlands.
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2,5 meters stem, 3 meter with the top leaf.

The leaves are probably coming out the same direction, because there's a wal behind them and so they hae no light from that part. My Musa 'Super Dwarf Cavendish' was doing that too, although with it's slow growth it was no problem.
Looking forward to pups already. I wonder, how tall they are before the 5 leaf. 1,5 meters? That will be a tough one. But beautiful plants with incredible raceme of fruit Musa 'Monkey Finger' is (this sounded like Yoda from Star Wars). Hope you will get some fruit the next year.

By the way, if you want the plant to pup a lot, it should be in a confined space, so a small pot, close to the wall, close to roads is ideal.
Like you have it. Where did you buy Musa 'Monkey Fingers' by the way? And the Musa 'Daijao'? Where do you have it from? I bought my Daijao from Netherlands.

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Old 05-24-2009, 10:32 AM   #32 (permalink)
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the last site shows a lot bananas but the truth, inside the shop its poor but exclusieve bananas for Belgium and maybe Europe
Each of those shops has only one plant that I want... And it's not worth to pay the bank for transfer. Anyways, Musa 'Saba' is edible banana as well, quite hardy, and of course, Musa 'William's Hybrid' is worth a shot.
And they have bad pictures. They have a picture of Musa 'Dwarf Namwah', but it says Musa 'Raja Puri'.
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Each of those shops has only one plant that I want... And it's not worth to pay the bank for transfer. Anyways, Musa 'Saba' is edible banana as well, quite hardy, and of course, Musa 'William's Hybrid' is worth a shot.
And they have bad pictures. They have a picture of Musa 'Dwarf Namwah', but it says Musa 'Raja Puri'.


mmmmmmmmm Saba like it.
The one from the site cannabanana are all death.
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mmmmmmmmm Saba like it.
The one from the site cannabanana are all death.
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Ou, bad luck.
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My vote to Williams hyb.
Looks like safest cultivar to me.
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My vote to Williams hyb.
Looks like safest cultivar to me.
On the contrary, Ante, it's the least safest of all that are in offer. It's so closely related to Cavendish (and so tasty therefore), tha it has quite high demands. Also, it has difficulties to survive even light frosts of -1°C, when it supposedly dies out in 75% of the cases. It's yields are said to be incredible though, quite large bunches, excellent fruit, and of course, shorter statue.
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Saba, on the contrary, is large, robust banana that has higher yields of fruit supposedly with lesser quality, it's better for cooking, as the fruit is supposedly very heavy.
Saba is also much hardier and it's one of the most ideal cultivars to your area.
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Saba, on the contrary, is large, robust banana that has higher yields of fruit supposedly with lesser quality, it's better for cooking, as the fruit is supposedly very heavy.
Saba is also much hardier and it's one of the most ideal cultivars to your area.
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Im affraid that Saba is too big plant. Im not interested in growing naners for food in first place but for exotic ornaments. As U know my region is very "windy" and so big plants will look ugly with stripped leaves.
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Agreed, but Saba is robust as well. And it also grows in the regions, where hurricanes and floods are a matter of 2 or 3 years...

But it's large, that's true. I like Banana plants to the height of maybe 3,5 metre, not more. Double my height...

Why don't you want to grow naners for food? You have quite a good conditions in your climate, it would be shame not to use them... I started collecting edible cultivars, when I ate the first Cavendish grow in Slovakia. Incomparable t the grocery food. Perfect, sweet, tasty. Maybe a little bit small, but that was from SDC, so it couldn't have been large...
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maybe I change my mind after my Cavendish fruit one day. U can come to help me eat them.
I will try with few cultivars course but that isnt priority for me. Differencies are. Im trying to collect many different spicie so I can compare them and enjoy in "living with nature"!
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I will try with few cultivars course but that isnt priority for me. Differencies are. Im trying to collect many different spicie so I can compare them and enjoy in "living with nature"!
If I lived in Makarska riviera in another life, I would deffinitely own a large citrus and banana farm... But since I'm living in Central Europe, I love our traditional plants and take the bananas as an option, to give Slovak farmers something, that will liberate them from Tesco bananas.

This Pahari Kela might be the perfect one, with it's requirements, it's not very much unlike tomatoes, which grow perfectly in here, so in a smaller scale, this could be something new to my region. And if the plants live and fruit here, I will spread it to the whole region...
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