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Old 05-18-2009, 12:01 PM   #101 (permalink)
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I live in somerset in the UK.
Would love any help on finding and growing bananas in the UK.
Maybe get a banana buddie system going of swaps ( if any of mine grow).
Also how easy have people found it swaping bananas between uk and europe?
No personal experience on my part, but since UK is a member of the EU (there's no customs among EU states), it shouldn't be as difficult as other countries...
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I live in somerset in the UK.
Would love any help on finding and growing bananas in the UK.
Maybe get a banana buddie system going of swaps ( if any of mine grow).
Also how easy have people found it swaping bananas between uk and europe?
Glad U joined us. I didnt have any problems when I recived my M. bordelon from UK even Croatia isnt in EU.
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How long did it take the post to get it into Croatia. I mean from UK to Croatia?
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:21 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Five days to week at most. Arrived in perfect condition and for the time on allready has three leaves. Today I noticed that even snails like it. I ll have to trap them first thing tomorrow.
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Glad U joined us. I didnt have any problems when I recived my M. bordelon from UK even Croatia isnt in EU.
Sorry to sound a bit silly but was that seeds or plant?

Also has anyone had problems getting bananas from say....USA or any other non-EU place to EU?

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It was a plant. One litre pot, 20 cm high. Till now nobody from US wasnt willing to ship me plant so I still foundt that impossiblle.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:48 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Sorry to sound a bit silly but was that seeds or plant?

Also has anyone had problems getting bananas from say....USA or any other non-EU place to EU?

@ icklefaqua:
USA - I've never tried
India - They haven't arrived
Switzerland - enroute, 4 workdays, 6 normal days...

from EU - no experience, but considering no customs, it should be swift.

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One way is to get it off EU (which is easy, they don't check outgoing stuff), the other way is to get it to EU (which is close to impossible sometimes).
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Jack,
there is never problem in any country with outgoing customs, they will allmost let everything out but in-customs are problems everywhere, if they mind they can allways look for fitocert. , taxex and ****s only they know.
One member from .org has send me one plant (not naner) that i recived without any problem so i STILL belive that there is problem in peoples mind.
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For snails and slugs, use stale (or fresh) beer in a shallow pan, like a short jar cap. Snails and slugs love to party with beer. They die happy!
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Here in Italy I never had problems in receiving stuff from the Uk. Here it seems from Uk things work as they should work for all countries which are commercial partners. I also received banana plants, once a parcel with dw cavendish and another time my two Helen's.

I don't see the purpose however because, paradoxically enough, you can find much more banana plants to buy in the Uk than in the southern European countries with warm climates.
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Interesting, I shall give it a try. Don't you happen to know, by the way, how to efficiently exterminate ants? They seem to keep their footholds and start to expand to my tomato territory... Coffee doesn't help anymore, boiled water neither, seems like a futile fight.

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Here in Italy I never had problems in receiving stuff from the Uk. Here it seems from Uk things work as they should work for all countries which are commercial partners. I also received banana plants, once a parcel with dw cavendish and another time my two Helen's.

I don't see the purpose however because, paradoxically enough, you can find much more banana plants to buy in the Uk than in the southern European countries with warm climates.
I will see how it goes from Swizerland, and after being disappointed by the Indian bananas (which haven't arrived to Slovakia for some purpose), I hope this one will be fine.
And Kalabrian, you forgot palm enthusiasts, there seem to be more of them in the border countries, were only limited amounts of hardy palms can survive, yet I know of soooooo many people all over Europe, America, Russia (yes, I know, they have subtropical and desert regions too, but I'm talking about the cold, European part).. It's just the paradox that always keeps me amused. However, you know, I don't appreciate the simplicity of an apple. Yet, in India, they have troubles growing it else than on Himalayan slopes (if even there) - it needs winter period... Paradox. . It's charming, how evryone wants what he can't have. I would call it also one of the basic human characteristics, not going to philospohy though. It just occured to me.
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Jack, for ants stir a box of bicarbonate of soda into the hill, then pour vinegar in. They don't come back (for me at least, and I deal with leafcutter ants) after being treated that way.
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I will give it a try, thanks. At first, the used coffee worked, but then they adapted. The boiling water seemed to work too, but then they learnt, that they should carry their wounded brothers to the grounds. I also used ant bacteria to eliminate the colonies, but they somehow got imunity. I'm starting to admire the ant kingdom's efficiency, but it's devastating to my strawberries, any berries in fact and tomatoes... they make small holes into the vegetables and then it won't ripen...
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Jack, for ants stir a box of bicarbonate of soda into the hill, then pour vinegar in. They don't come back (for me at least, and I deal with leafcutter ants) after being treated that way.
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I think we might have different kinds of leafcutters, Chong. Mine make long trails and constantly use them, so you just follow them back to the nest, which is a big bare area. In my case, I then soak my boots in kerosene (this keeps them from climbing me during the second step), and I use a machete to break the nest open. From there it's as I described.

I have this kind of little red bastard munchie ants. They're quite easy to follow, since they wear their own little paths through the garden and forest.

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I think we might have different kinds of leafcutters, Chong. Mine make long trails and constantly use them, so you just follow them back to the nest, which is a big bare area. In my case, I then soak my boots in kerosene (this keeps them from climbing me during the second step), and I use a machete to break the nest open. From there it's as I described.

I have this kind of little red bastard munchie ants. They're quite easy to follow, since they wear their own little paths through the garden and forest.

Eeeeek! That's what they look like around here. Though ours are probably only 3/4 the size of those. A little smaller anyway. My problem here is that they are mostly nocturnal. If I'm lucky, and I may see them early in the morning. And I can see them quickly scouring around with pieces of leaves. I understand that they don't actually eat the leaves, but use the leaves to compost and grow a certain type of fungus, which is the one they eat. So, do the ants get killed by the Carbon Dioxide gas, or it it the Sodium Acetate that gets in their food that kills them?
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It's a combo of both, actually. The Sodium Acetate kills the fungus, some of the ants drown in the vinegar, some die of asphyxiation with the CO2, and the queen normally starves before they can move her because the vinegar renders the area unsuitable for future fungal growth.
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Wooho, banana party. Too bad I quit drinking. I ll die laughing whan I imagine me and bunch of slugs in beer pool
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@ icklefaqua:
USA - I've never tried
India - They haven't arrived
Switzerland - enroute, 4 workdays, 6 normal days...

from EU - no experience, but considering no customs, it should be swift.

@ Dalmatiansoap:
One way is to get it off EU (which is easy, they don't check outgoing stuff), the other way is to get it to EU (which is close to impossible sometimes).

Dear friends,

time to correct my previous, a little bit hasted emotions.

USA - It's up to Chong , but I've never tried
India - ARRIVED after 26 days, 18 workdays (some holiday were there) - they were forgotten at the CLO ZOLL Police Department
Switzerland - ARRIVED after 7 days, 5 workdays
from EU - considering no customs, it should be swift, but I've never tried

And now some pictures of lucky Musa 'Pahari Kela' owner. Let's just hope, that they will live and live to their reputation...



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