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Old 05-11-2009, 04:45 PM   #81 (permalink)
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With due respect, I do not think the location of our friend in Croatia is comparable to my area. If we talk of my specific condition, I can have some troubles sometimes with light frost because of the altitude of my location, but if we talk about the area in general... there is no game. It's not to be patriotic but because of evidence. I am below the 40th parallel and this means I am in the subtropics. Moreover, my region is between two seas, Tirreno and Ionio, both much warmer than the Adriatic. This latter in fact is not very deep. For this same reason in Italy on the Tirreno's side climatic zone 9 reaches until the north in Liguria, while on the Adriatic side it's only the southern part of the Peninsula which is considered warm to 9. If I have not been clear on this latter issue see the Koeppen map:

http://www.passiflora.it/Zone%20Clim...ZoneKoppen.jpg

I do not agree on many particulars of this map, but it gives a general idea and you can see the difference between the two sides.

Apart from this, in general in the coastal areas of my region there is no frost at all. This year which was a tough winter for many of us on the coasts here it never drop below 2-5 degrees depending on the areas. Of course there are exceptions but few.

As I was saying my situation is different. But when you think that at almost 600 m of altitude (which is quite a lot) I can easily grow citrus, bananas, cattley guava and avocado, you get an idea of the general climate of the area. In the valley they grow annonas and guava and along the coast they grow mango, litchi, ananas, babaco and pithaya.

I apologize for the moment of glory, no disrespect for nobody.

To answer your question on max temp, I have official datas for these locations:

- at the beginning of the valley (which means at the feet of my hill), at 362 m of height, absolute max in history are 38.3 in May, 43.2 in June, 44.3 in July, 43.0 August, 41 September and 34. 7 in October. Here almost every year the temp touches 40 degrees.
Consultazione banca dati storici

- in the plan which stretches from the hill to the coast, but some km away from the sea, 41.7 June, 42.7 July, 42.1 Ago, 37.1 Sept
Consultazione banca dati storici

- by the sea, 39.8 June, 40. 1 July, 42.4 Ago, 34.7 Sept
Consultazione banca dati storici

As you see the max temp are higher far from the sea, however in these same places also winter is cooler and it is there that frost occur when by the sea are unheard of.

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I know I know, but to me, you guys are almost the same. Even within Koppen-Geiger you are just one place from each other (3 to 5 degrees Celsius is not a difference, 10 is ). And I've been to Makarska and they really are Africa like in summer (southern Croatia).
But the truth is, that there's only a little in the Europe, that can compare to your climate, Emanuel. Really... No need to persuade me... I believe you...

And you know what is funny? Temperato fieddo is my climate In the middle of the Italy. Lucky me...
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sorry I do not know why but the links to temp data which I posted in the former message do not work well, in fact they direct to the main page of the site and not to the specific pages I had chosen. Sorry for that.
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sorry I do not know why but the links to temp data which I posted in the former message do not work well, in fact they direct to the main page of the site and not to the specific pages I had chosen. Sorry for that.
No need to apologize, they work with me...
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Concerning your final observation, Jack, in fact I have to say I regret there are not enough people here from both south Greece (or the islands) and south Spain.
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Concerning your final observation, Jack, in fact I have to say I regret there are not enough people here from both south Greece (or the islands) and south Spain.
Which is still less then if I had to call in the whole Central, Northern, Eastern Europe... There is a magic to your climate and there's magic to mine... (I wonder, has any one seen the Russian Sankt Petersburg in winter? Lovely.... strongly recommended)...

Anoter question for you boys. Have you ever seen the frost that makes trees break at the mere touch? 200 kilometers of solid snow across the lowlands...
Pics to follow my point (photo taken about 1km from my house by my father, begin of the Carpathian mountain region, elevation of mere 450 meters above sea level).
Maybe I can't grow naners or apples, but it's worth the pic. Photos should make the waters of this thread cooler and let us reason together about thousands of beauties our planet has to offer...




You don't see such pictures everyday, also, other guys, enjoy... this is once a 4 years weather. Astonishingly, the temperaturewas only -12°C...
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Of course Jack, all creation is blessed and wonderful. Of course also each one is more accustomed to a certain environment and loves it.

I was referring to the Greece and Spain issue because of our bananas' experiment and research. To give you an example, all the mango and annona trees in nurseries here come from Spain. Thus I am sure there is some nursery out there selling special nanas variety in Europe but we are not able to find it. That's what I meant.

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Isn't that a lovely site

I knew there was a reason why I moved to South Carolina LOL

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Of course Jack, all creation is blessed and wonderful. Of course also each one is more accustomed to a certain environment and loves it.

I was referring to the Greece and Spain issue because of our bananas' experiment and research. To give you an example, all the mango and annona trees in nurseries here come from Spain. Thus I am sure there is some nursery out there selling special nanas variety in Europe but we are not able to find it. That's what I meant.

Think I am going to sleep now, hear you soon!
I sincerely hope to hear from you soon. Please let me know, oh you know...
One of my friends here in CE is working on it... There's definitely something in France and Spain. Just to find it...


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Old 05-12-2009, 03:30 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Hehe, we are turning on. This thread rechs the point.
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Hi,It's me sighning in from the UK.
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This forum is for members of the Banana Society from anywhere in all of the European Union to discuss things about banana plants, to discuss issues of getting banana plants in and into Europe, to discuss the things that bother the region, etc.. The forum exists to allow every new European member to get in touch with his/her European colleagues, exchange plants, give advice, and more efficiently organize the European banana community.
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Thank You Jarred!
Juts came back home after few day of hard work on regionall expo and now this .
Folks we did it! I really think that this is a good idea. Would be much easyer for direct contact between members here and I hope that "naner population" will grow much faster.
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And thank you as well Ante, it is of course your thread. Hope the expo went well btw.
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Yes, in generall it was my idea and it had good support from many European members (not only from EU).
Expo was great. Crowded with tourist from cruser boats. Mostly from USA and Japan and it was great expereance for me to talk with peoples from all around globe.
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This is 1700 y old palace where expo took place. We freesed inside.
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What is in the lovely bottle you holding???
Wholenut liquer in hand-painted bottle. And on the table are snapses made from figs and carobs, herbal liq. and domestic cherry. Uf, almost forgot olive oil.
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Hi there,
I live in somerset in the UK.
Would love any help on finding and growing bananas in the UK.
Maybe get a banana buddie system going of swaps ( if any of mine grow).
Also how easy have people found it swaping bananas between uk and europe?
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