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Jack,
night low 16,
7 am 21,
daily high to be 27-29,
low wind
thx to Adriatic see
:woohoonaner:

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Yes, I know, Adratic sea. :D Do you know the motto of our travel agencies? If no, it goes like this: :D :D :D

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Nice motto.
My brother went to Slovakia four days ago and he is coming back today. Says that it was great trip.
We are little waried about tourist seson this year, every body is talking about that global crises but I hope that will go as usuall and that there is going to be a lot of Slovaks here. Have you been here?
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I've been to Croatia many times, Makarska, Split, Vodice... lots of fun there.
Vodice were quite a hot climate actually but so cold water (6 days of cold water out of 10). If it had over 22°C, I'm going to eat my shoe (it was in July). Other than that, perfect. I liked the girls as well, but only then found out that many were from Hungary and Slovakia (just kidding, your girls are lovely to watch and talk to) :D ;)
The problem there generally is with the sea is, that if it rains too much one day, the water remains cold for another 3 days.

Here, in the southermost Slovakia, we have the drinking water level so low (7m), that after the gravel has been gathered (about 1 meter layer - Danube Delta), artificial lakes are created, large enough for you not to see the other side of the bank. And once they heat up, they stay hot (27°C) almost till september. That's why I'm not used to cold water.


Our Slavic cultures are (fortunatelly) much alike, I believe that's the reason why we have little or no problems fitting in each other's communities, getting to know people and meet new friends quickly.
There are people here at my university, that are descendants of Slovaks living in the Croatia and Serbia (from the times when the Osman Emire conquered the Balcan region (sorry, but it is the only precise term, southern Europe was never invaded) and southern Central Europe and the "migration of nations" began).
They are fluent in Slovak and as I've been discussing the differences among our cultures, they said, it's pretty small, if any.
My personal experience with Russians, Croatians, Ukrainians... only confirms it...


And finally, this year might be quite bad. Out of 1,5 million Slovaks that travel round the world in summer, about 1 million travel to Croatia. However, the crisis has been bad to our nation (and other, that I was able to see in Croatia during holiday). Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, Slovaks... many people have lost their jobs, the businesses have almost stopped and you can see, that people don't buy more, than they actually need (and sometimes even less, than they need).
I'm afraid, that there'll only be about 100 000 people (estimate of our ministry of work, social affairs...) travelling on their holiday abroad this year from Slovakia... most of the people will settle with their own possibilities (lakes in Slovakia, Balaton and other in Hungary, thousands of people will invade our mountains (Tatra and Carpathian mountain region)...).
As I've said already, the business has stopped and it's not likely to move, unless all the reserve materials, products etc have been depleted.

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Hello fellow Europeans,

I am from Germany and my Husband is british but we both reside in the USA at the moment.

If we can be of any assistance contact us.

Little Rat

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Nice to have you aboard pals, since in USA the plants are easier to obtain, we will probably have some smuggling missions for you.. :D ;) Just kiddin'
Welcome aboard!

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Getting the sunglases, rain coat and hat ready for the first mission *lol*

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O, Jack
I dont belive is such black scenario. One way or other many Slovaks will get here. We are famous destination for last minute guests. Only thing that is going to be much different is lenght of vacations. There is going to be more 5-7 days shifts than usuals 7-10 days. At leest that is what it looks like now, we have had a more tourists from Easter till now than last year but they are staying shorter time.
If U decide to visit I can arrange U accomodation and special member discount in one of ours rentals in Baska Voda. :ha::ha::ha:
Regards

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Hehe, better go to nearest UPS office and get some boxes.:ha::ha::ha:

Dont mind me. Glad U joined us.
:woohoonaner:

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hmmm importing nanas from south carolina mmmmmmmm nice:goteam:

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a small question for european nana lovers
how long it takes for having some flowering in a mmmmm for example a basjoo,helens hybrid or a cavendish in a belgium,Germany,slovakian,... climate.
overwintering inside.the rest of the seazon outside

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I had my Basjoo flowering after three years in the Netherlands. In my pictures you can see it. In the winter i've wrapped it with straw en the next summer it flowered.

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pfff 3 years hahaha soooooo long

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Is that long?

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i have a red stern basjoo, ventricosum, cavendish, acumminata monkeyfinger, helens hybride. im from belgium. what 2 do
plant in garden in ... how you say it.... full soil or i leave it in a container end dig it in.
temperature winter tis year -19 degrees celcius

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i mean 3 years waithing is long.
i what 2 c quiker result hehe im a dreamer

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I thought you had it flower quicker. I have some in full soil and some in containers. I don't know what is better. The one flowering is standing in full soil. If you send me a PM we can talk in Netherlands?

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Well, you can allway sendt them to me here. It will be much warmer for them:ha::ha::ha:.

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pm is verzonden

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I thought that the Western Europe climate was much warmer in the winter thanks to the warm Gulf Stream. How could you have had -19°C? Is it really so? Wet winter or snowy winter?


Citruses take sometimes decades to start fruiting. Is it still so long?

Container for Cavendish types, free soil for the hardier (basjoo, Orinoco, sikkimensis...)

What are your annual winter lowest tempeartures (for the past about 10 years or so)...?

It depends, some flower earlier (Cavendishes), because I have them in the warm place for winter, some fruit later (basjoos in the soil...)
One more thing, it's Slovak, not Slovakian. ;) ...
Slovak climate would be:
Winter lowest 2009 >>> -13°C (about 1 night,then it gradually fell to -1°C)
Summer highest 2008 >>> 34,5°C

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Last winter was terrible. Here in the Netherlands is was also around minus 20 degrees. It was a long time ago that it was so cold. Almost my whole collecting was destroyed. I've saved three Musa Sikkimensis. But i've seeded new ones.

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lowest -19 but its coldest sinds 10 years
normaly max -10
summer i think 34

best 2 put not hardy in container? end dig it in for summer.
or alsow free soil en dig it up fot winter

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Sometimes it gets even to Slovakia (the temperatures in the Central Europe are quite low, but not that extreme in the lowland where I live). We have every winter from -7°C to -14°C, the winter of 2006 was extreme with -17°C. The most important thing is that the temperatures are constant during the whole winter, so we have always -8°C for example and than skip to -12°C for a few nights and back again... The average January temperature (coldest month) is about -2°C, which is quite good.

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If you dig it in for summer, it might not be possible to give them back to the container, because they will make strong roots. Just give them large pot (75 litres and more) and they will grow nicely. In summer, you can keep them outside.

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i mean, i leave nana in container but put the container in free soil, it looks nicer.
some usa members dig the plants up, clean roots en put hem dry end cold free no?

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This are approx. year temp. for my area of Makarska riviera (known by Jack).
This was coldest winter in several last years and we had 0 C for arround 7 day and one morning -3C. Blue lines are see temp. and red ones air temp.
Other pix shows temp. for several cityes on Adriatic coast. I belong to Split area.
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Nice, so you hardly ever go below 0°C. Compared to that and after seeing the Koppen-Geiger maps (I believe the best climatic maps out there) I would guess, that you're almost the same winter temperatured region as Kalabrian here. You know guys, if I knew Italian or Croatian (Croatian shouldn't be that hard, since I already understand, when some speaks Croatian), I would move there.

Shame that the winter temperatures are so dull in my country. Howeer it has some positive issues along. Almost no flu streaks, no pandemics... because most of the bacteria is killed in heavier frosts and of course - skiing and ice skating.

Bananas don't seem to like the snow that much... Shame on them. What are the highest temperatures in your country boys (Emanuel and Ante)? About 37°C? More?

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37-39 C. Ej Im in Csa zone in Koppen-geiger. Low temp. isnt problem here. Strong north wids are. Strongest here was 205km/h.
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WTFFFFFFFF. 205km/h. Isn't that terribly close to huricanes and such menaces? We do get some terrible winds, but not more then 120km/hod (it took our pool's roof away, we had to cahse it on our garden... polycarbonate).

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Hi Jack

With due respect, I do not think the location of our friend in Croatia is comparable to my area. If we talk of my specific condition, I can have some troubles sometimes with light frost because of the altitude of my location, but if we talk about the area in general... there is no game. It's not to be patriotic but because of evidence. I am below the 40th parallel and this means I am in the subtropics. Moreover, my region is between two seas, Tirreno and Ionio, both much warmer than the Adriatic. This latter in fact is not very deep. For this same reason in Italy on the Tirreno's side climatic zone 9 reaches until the north in Liguria, while on the Adriatic side it's only the southern part of the Peninsula which is considered warm to 9. If I have not been clear on this latter issue see the Koeppen map:

http://www.passiflora.it/Zone%20Clim...ZoneKoppen.jpg

I do not agree on many particulars of this map, but it gives a general idea and you can see the difference between the two sides.

Apart from this, in general in the coastal areas of my region there is no frost at all. This year which was a tough winter for many of us on the coasts here it never drop below 2-5 degrees depending on the areas. Of course there are exceptions but few.

As I was saying my situation is different. But when you think that at almost 600 m of altitude (which is quite a lot) I can easily grow citrus, bananas, cattley guava and avocado, you get an idea of the general climate of the area. In the valley they grow annonas and guava and along the coast they grow mango, litchi, ananas, babaco and pithaya.

I apologize for the moment of glory, no disrespect for nobody.

To answer your question on max temp, I have official datas for these locations:

- at the beginning of the valley (which means at the feet of my hill), at 362 m of height, absolute max in history are 38.3 in May, 43.2 in June, 44.3 in July, 43.0 August, 41 September and 34. 7 in October. Here almost every year the temp touches 40 degrees.
Consultazione banca dati storici

- in the plan which stretches from the hill to the coast, but some km away from the sea, 41.7 June, 42.7 July, 42.1 Ago, 37.1 Sept
Consultazione banca dati storici

- by the sea, 39.8 June, 40. 1 July, 42.4 Ago, 34.7 Sept
Consultazione banca dati storici

As you see the max temp are higher far from the sea, however in these same places also winter is cooler and it is there that frost occur when by the sea are unheard of.

Blessings to all

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I know I know, but to me, you guys are almost the same. Even within Koppen-Geiger you are just one place from each other (3 to 5 degrees Celsius is not a difference, 10 is :D ). And I've been to Makarska and they really are Africa like in summer (southern Croatia).
But the truth is, that there's only a little in the Europe, that can compare to your climate, Emanuel. Really... No need to persuade me... ;) I believe you... :D

And you know what is funny? Temperato fieddo is my climate :D In the middle of the Italy. Lucky me... :D

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sorry I do not know why but the links to temp data which I posted in the former message do not work well, in fact they direct to the main page of the site and not to the specific pages I had chosen. Sorry for that.

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No need to apologize, they work with me... ;)

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Concerning your final observation, Jack, in fact I have to say I regret there are not enough people here from both south Greece (or the islands) and south Spain.

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Which is still less then if I had to call in the whole Central, Northern, Eastern Europe... :D There is a magic to your climate and there's magic to mine... (I wonder, has any one seen the Russian Sankt Petersburg in winter? Lovely.... strongly recommended)...

Anoter question for you boys. Have you ever seen the frost that makes trees break at the mere touch? 200 kilometers of solid snow across the lowlands...
Pics to follow my point (photo taken about 1km from my house by my father, begin of the Carpathian mountain region, elevation of mere 450 meters above sea level).
Maybe I can't grow naners or apples, but it's worth the pic. :D Photos should make the waters of this thread cooler and let us reason together about thousands of beauties our planet has to offer... :D ;)




You don't see such pictures everyday, also, other guys, enjoy... this is once a 4 years weather. Astonishingly, the temperaturewas only -12°C... :D

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Of course Jack, all creation is blessed and wonderful. Of course also each one is more accustomed to a certain environment and loves it.

I was referring to the Greece and Spain issue because of our bananas' experiment and research. To give you an example, all the mango and annona trees in nurseries here come from Spain. Thus I am sure there is some nursery out there selling special nanas variety in Europe but we are not able to find it. That's what I meant.

Think I am going to sleep now, hear you soon!

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Isn't that a lovely site :) :coldbanana:

I knew there was a reason why I moved to South Carolina LOL

Little Rat

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I sincerely hope to hear from you soon. Please let me know, oh you know... :D
One of my friends here in CE is working on it... :D There's definitely something in France and Spain. Just to find it...


That's Central Europe :D :D :D :D ;)

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Hehe, we are turning on. This thread rechs the point.
:woohoonaner:

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Hi,It's me sighning in from the UK.:waving:

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Bravo Mark.
Glad that U R sighned
:woohoonaner:

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:parachutenanner: Don't mind me, just dropping in to see what's going on "over there".

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Take good care where will U drop down. Mines are everywere:ha::ha::ha:
:woohoonaner:

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Thread moved to our brand new European Section.
Special thanks to Jack Daw, Tog Tan, and the others that were instrumental in getting the special section setup. Hope you enjoy and use it well.
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Thank You Jarred!
Juts came back home after few day of hard work on regionall expo and now this :ha::ha:.
Folks we did it! I really think that this is a good idea. Would be much easyer for direct contact between members here and I hope that "naner population" will grow much faster.
Regards from Croatia!
:woohoonaner:
P.S.
thanks Tog, thanks Bob and thank U all that supported this idea!

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And thank you as well Ante, it is of course your thread. Hope the expo went well btw.

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Yes, in generall it was my idea and it had good support from many European members (not only from EU).
Expo was great. Crowded with tourist from cruser boats. Mostly from USA and Japan and it was great expereance for me to talk with peoples from all around globe.
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This is 1700 y old palace where expo took place. We freesed inside.
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congrats on the Expo.

What is in the lovely bottle you holding???

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Wholenut liquer in hand-painted bottle. And on the table are snapses made from figs and carobs, herbal liq. and domestic cherry. Uf, almost forgot olive oil.
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Hi there,
I live in somerset in the UK.
Would love any help on finding and growing bananas in the UK.
Maybe get a banana buddie system going of swaps ( if any of mine grow).
Also how easy have people found it swaping bananas between uk and europe?