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Old 06-21-2009, 02:51 PM   #61 (permalink)
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We had 3 earthquakes in region today. First one 4/6 (Richter/MCS), second 5/7 and on the end "truly tiny" 2.2/2. Lot of shaking today .
Wow, terrible, we never had earthquake stronger than 5 Richter, and even that one we got with the 20 year long step among them.
So you are okay, kids and wife, all ok? Hope it is. Could have ended badly, your region doesn't have many antiearthquake buildings, does it?
I don't know what the hell is going on with this climate, but I suspect that someone's working with technology beyond anything we can imagine. I read just yesterday, that Russian military succesfully tried heat sink.
Ante, do you remember from the school what heat sink is? Theoretically, you take heat (or energy) from one place and you put it simewhere else (for example take the heat of your riviera and put it on a glacier in Antarctica).
They semed to have developed such a technology, I watched a short video of a scientist in a conference in Prague about 4 month ago and he (Czech) claimed to have seen such an experiment.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:35 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Nikola Tesla was working on something like that.
We have offen earhquakes but still no antiearthquake buildings .
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We have offen earhquakes but still no antiearthquake buildings .
Right and wrong. Nikola Tesla (I know how proud your fellow countryman are to say that he was Croatian) worked on something called Wireless energy transfer, which is also a technology being developed. I saw a short distance energy transfer on a computer conference about a week ago.
But the heat sink doesn't need to process energy into a particular form. It takes heat - the heat arrives, it takes electricity - electricity arrives, it's not an energy channel, it's matter-energy based. Pretty lovely in fact.
I love technologies.
How come that you don't have buildings against earthquakes, when you are the zone?
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Our building tehnology layers on much concrete and irons. It is common way of building nowdays, anything else cost too much and we still didnt achive Yours (EU) standards.
We are still mediterrannian as it used to be.
BTW Nikola Tesla was Serbian born and lived in Croatia.
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Our building tehnology layers on much concrete and irons. It is common way of building nowdays, anything else cost too much and we still didnt achive Yours (EU) standards.
We are still mediterrannian as it used to be.
BTW Nikola Tesla was Serbian born and lived in Croatia.
"A man is defined by where he lives, not where he was born."
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Yet Russians forget about this quotation.
I must admit that it goes down the hill with Serbia. I have many classmates from Serbia (because the Serbia was repopulated by Slovaks and Hungarian after the Turkish and Osman invasion to Europe), but they are way behind Tesla. Well, he was classy.

I like the mediterranean architecture, smaller buildings, large gardens, that's how it should be. If I showed you the view on one part of Bratislava (its close to the term 'slum'), you wouldn't stop vomitting for hours. Terrible. EU standards. To hell with them, there's no grass in my city, 200 year old trees were cut after the winter to "fortify the Danube", but some people corrupted the city council and so now instead of trees we will have luxorious appartments on the Danube.
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Undevelopment saved us in a way now. But if we lay our hands on some capital we ll ruin everything . It is just way it goes.
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Undevelopment saved us in a way now. But if we lay our hands on some capital we ll ruin everything . It is just way it goes.
Yes, but you know how it ended up, when everybody earned the same amount of money, when the domestic agriculture and industry was important...
It's all gone now. We have traded (not me, but 98% of people) one strongly enforced way for another. Except now not the Strana, but money rulez. That's no change at all.
At least we have had an opportunity to start differently.

What the capital brought us is laziness of the paople, stealing, murders, robberies, corruption, deffective police...
There's no way to corrupt, if you can't give anything away, there's no way of stealing, when you haveprecisely what the other one has...
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You are maybe right Jack, but right now I dont really care .
Just want to GROW NANERS!!!!
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You are maybe right Jack, but right now I dont really care .
Just want to GROW NANERS!!!!
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Sorry, am full of energy. I've been working 28 hours non stop, so am a bit freaky. I need 4 more and then finito for 8 hours, nice 6 hours long sleep.
I'm just thinking like this Ante, because there will (hopefully) be children in about 4 to 5 years, so I'm planning.
Growing naners is fine, until your tax paying time is up.
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Neah Jack, you cannt plan your life so much in forward. We live day by day here now. Make it good today and try to make tomorrow even better, than U cant miss sucsess and joy. Enjoy living, you are to early pissed on your living. Or just lack of sleep, ha?
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Neah Jack, you cannt plan your life so much in forward. We live day by day here now. Make it good today and try to make tomorrow even better, than U cant miss sucsess and joy. Enjoy living, you are to early pissed on your living. Or just lack of sleep, ha?
No, unfotunatelly I was always taught to see the world for what it is. If you don't see the problem (this was meant for my self correction), than you can't see the solution. I'm not pissed with the life, I just don't like its parameters nowadays. I don't say that it was better in the past, but I can imagine that it wasn't so bound for certain goals.
Some time ago you said to me, that it is your mediterranean nature to solve thinks somehow. It is my nature (and generally all those peoples, that live in a cold regions) that we are active, sometimes too active. Just compare your life with the life in central regions, compare your life with coastal Italians, Greeks, there are many similarities.
I think it is important and this trait is seen everywhere in the cold countries cultures, that people work and work and work and work. And they work even before they are tired so much, that they can't go anymore. Thinking is just another level of working and calculating future is one of the most enriching activities for me. Of course that it brings bad emotions, but that's part of it.
You know, people that I observe are quite annoyed by this watching of mine, but I know many people so deeply, that I can speak aloud with them and we both tell the same things.
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I know this is off topic, but I sent some naners to Kalabrian today (Grand Naners to be precise ) as a part of the trade for his lovely plant (next in line for trade are Ante, YAKUZA... and the list goes on and on... so that no questions arise ), so we will see some pics real soon, at least hopefully.
I used 2 special casings, which were the remains of a plant shipment I once got about 3 years ago. Ever since they proved to be very useful, when I had to take some plant with me somewhere and it travelled in the suitcase (guess what I was doin' ). It's not easy to obtain them and one must be very careful with them, but I thought what the heck and packed everything up so, that the plants should get to Kalabrian without any scratch (without any new scratch that is, they were slightly sunburnt and also one or 2 leaves broken from previous shipment, but you know what I mean).
I wonder, whether they arrive in perfect conditions or the casings simply crush so many times, that they do some damage to the plant. I'm already working on a way, how to make the plants suffer the least yet prolong the shipping survival rates.

Kalabrian, it's up to you to post the pics.
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Hey guys, i need some info for next winter.
I want 2 take some nanas inside but want 2 know if light is neccesery.
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Woooow bad english hehehe
It depends, if zou want to store them in temperatures lower and equalt to 10°C, no lght is needed, for temps of 15 to 20°C, some soil and light is needed. If you want to keep them dormant, then they won't need any light. Just be careful in teh spring then, not to burn the leaves. I would take your Siam Ruby in a pot inside.
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its for the bigest plants like the basjoo en the helens hybride.
i store it under the roof.
Its cold ther in winter but no frost.
i hope it works.
i have seen plenty pictures of american vrends on the forum en hope it works 4 me to.
But i have so mutch questions about it.
Like the light question end soil or non soil.
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its for the bigest plants like the basjoo en the helens hybride.
i store it under the roof.
Its cold ther in winter but no frost.
i hope it works.
i have seen plenty pictures of american vrends on the forum en hope it works 4 me to.
But i have so mutch questions about it.
Like the light question end soil or non soil.
It seems no soil. Or very little.
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OK guys, here's some Pahari Kela update. After 3 or more weeks of sitting ducks, the Hill banana finally did it. It started to grow above the soil level on one pup.

For comparison, pictures from 2 days ago and now.
2 or 3 days ago:



Pahari Kela today, when the heat waves came, I had to water really well, so it might be the reason, why it responded with a new growth (moved to the soil, I removed the outter leaf remains from the old rotting leaf)

do you have a photo update Jack?
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Hallo from Italy, Rome.

Here are my 'nanas.......

1) Dwarf Cavendish:







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Nice set of plants Rick, I see Melia azedarach and Pittosporum tobira.
I put my Melia to the ground this year, I hope it will survive the winter, pittosporum hasn't dane it.

I woun't be very revealing and show my bananas which I have shown before.
2 of my 3 basjoo - this higher one (in the distance) has only 2 leavs becouse it was kept inside and when I moved it out, the Sun burnt all leves.

and another one which was wintered in the garden (main pseudostem has rotted)
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Hi @all!

This is a link to my FB photos:

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I hope it works.....

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