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Old 06-15-2009, 08:04 AM   #41 (permalink)
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U can have mine +36 C
Now that is a little but too much. We have around 26°C, but no sun. There's almost 90% hydratation of the air in my village and surroundings and the air is windless.
Difficult to breathe. You can feel the sun's power even through the clouds.
Btw. Ante, I'm not that white as it seemed, actually, if you remember gipsies, I'm now that color on my back and white-brown in the front. Was doing some yard work yesterday and kinda missed the 30°C. Nu burn damage, tonight will be a pleasureful one, the temps shouldn't fall below 20°C until 400 CET and even then to 18°C for a while. TOmorrow rain and then we are going to swim. Water temperature was about 26°C the last time I checked. Fortunatelly, there are 16 lakes in my vicinity, so I can choose the warmest one.

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Now that is a little but too much. We have around 26°C, but no sun. There's almost 90% hydratation of the air in my village and surroundings and the air is windless.
Difficult to breathe. You can feel the sun's power even through the clouds.
Btw. Ante, I'm not that white as it seemed, actually, if you remember gipsies, I'm now that color on my back and white-brown in the front. Was doing some yard work yesterday and kinda missed the 30°C. Nu burn damage, tonight will be a pleasureful one, the temps shouldn't fall below 20°C until 400 CET and even then to 18°C for a while. TOmorrow rain and then we are going to swim. Water temperature was about 26°C the last time I checked. Fortunatelly, there are 16 lakes in my vicinity, so I can choose the warmest one.

YAKUZA, how about you?

still raining and 2O degrees.
All water overhere is pretty cold i think.
option B is a tropical indoor pool 20 km from here.

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YAKUZA, you will be germinating all week. Good luck with those seeds and I hope they will germinate well for you.
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YAKUZA, you will be germinating all week. Good luck with those seeds and I hope they will germinate well for you.
i hoop so 2 Jack
i have bad expierience with it.
My local nursery just put the seeds in soil end in the greenhouse. No furder treatment. i hope this works for me 2
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Ou, it is funn to germinate seeds. Expirience from beginning.
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Hi there my friends. It's been some time since I posted any quality picture, so here are some. Do sit back and enjoy.

Picture 1: DC and the damage one 3 minute long rain can do.


Picture 2: SDC 1 leaf profile (bought as Musa Picolo)


Picture 3: My vegie garden part. It's not that big, but surprisingly can feed the whole family. The next year paprikas (peppers), beans, watermelons... everything will grow there in harmony with the nanas. Plants are described in the picture.


Picture 4: Ensete ventricosum 'Maurelli', one for fun and one for TCing.


Picture 5: Francesco's new most favourite bananas after Ice Cream. Potted, watered, adapting. Day temps from 26 to 33°C.


Picture 6: Names of the plants are in the pictures, zou can see a total of 10 Grand Nains there, 2 Maurellis, my pride, a gift from Marcel - Dwarf Brazilian and Ananas comosus.


Picture 7: Grand Nain detail.


Picture 8: Dwarf Brazilian detail.


Picture 9: Dwarf Brazilian leaf detail.


Picture 10: Musa basjoo 'Rubra' in the left, Musa basjoo 'Сахали́н' or for those of you who can't speak Russian, Musa basjo 'Sakhalin' in the right


Picture 11: Musa basjoo 'Rubra' bad detail on p-stem, but the color's there.


Picture 12: Musa basjoo 'Сахали́н' detail.


Picture 13: Musa 'Dajiao' leaf detail, it's supposed to be an ABB hybrid, unknown cultivar, anyone kow something about it? PM, thanks.


Picture 14: Musa 'Dajiao' Pair.


Picture 15: Raja Prui after a very nasty, 3 minute long rain. It's leaves are full of holes and tears, but it will live nicely. It's grown nicely so far.


Picture 16: Pahari Kela progress.


Picture 17: Pahari Kela progress detail (no, it's not rotting, just the sun damaged it into this shape). Isn't it amazingly fast for a banana?


Picture 18: SDC labelled in the shop as Musa Miska


Picture 19: SDC 2 leaf detail.


Picture 20: SDC leaf and leaf and leaf after a leaf...


Picture 21: SDC 3 (labelled Musa tropicana) leaf detail.


Picture 22: From left to right: Citrus sinensis 'Tarocco Tapi', Musa 'Dwarf Cavendish', Citrus paradisi 'Bezsemjanij' (Sochi grepfruit)


Picture 23: Mini cocos nucifera.


Picture 24: Mini cocos nucifera detail.


Picture 25: Larger nucifera.


Picture 26: Nucifera view from top. I will donate these to a warm climate one day, when they are over 3,6 meters and I won't be able to store them anywhere.


Hop you liked it and I'm already looking forward to your pix.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:07 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Bravo Jack!!!
Some pictures ha?
Congratulations!!!!
Gran Nain ej?
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Bravo Jack!!!
Some pictures ha?
Congratulations!!!!
Gran Nain ej?
Ej. Along with Maurelli and two of the most hardy bananas that will make wonderful scenario near my pool and summer bathroom. I will be showering below the leaves of basjoo. In a year or so that is. Imagine showering below the flower bud and developing fruits.
Few pictures. I didn't have time to take more as I was in hurry to give those little babies what they wanted the most: Soil and water.
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I recived few healthy pups from USA today. So U all have to know that it can be done .
I will keep U posted with growth.

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Hi Ante, firstly congrats to new plants and secondly, it can be done, but I fear that not without phyto from USA to EU, or maybe yes, but in my case, it wil be standing a week for observation in our phytoinstitute. Nice plants you have there.
I just can't help it but like the Darjeeling Giant looking so small compared to to the Musa 'Apple' (or Manzano in your pic).
Anyways, it's getting full of plants in the Europe I see. I have some plants, YAKUZA has some, Kalabrian has some, you have some and the best part is, that we all have different cultivars. That's good for trade
Also, Ante, I will make ready one or two pups from both basjoos if you're interested, they will like my climate very much, so the growth will be good. Also, they should be growing without any protection in Makarska, so you will have problems with too many of them someday.
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It is good that we have different cultivares. Im interested in Basjoos for now and I ll let them (maybe not all ) overwinter out. I know 3 in my area that survived so in fact one is blooming righ now.
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It is good that we have different cultivares. Im interested in Basjoos for now and I ll let them (maybe not all ) overwinter out. I know 3 in my area that survived so in fact one is blooming righ now.
The first has a red stem, which seems very good to the eye and the second one is hardier than the Japanese version, because it comes from Sachalin, Russian island some hundred kilometers from the Japan to the North.
I am now researching a method that I heard about lately, it concerns speed propagation of bananas, but it requires time for the first batch, than it's fast. I have to choose the best cultivars first, so i might try this with Pahari Kela this winter and others later on. I find it very unlikely, that one of my eight Grand Nains won't have any pups this year, so there it goes, if interested. I will probably have to make one or two for YAKUZA as well. Jupiii, I really like experimenting. I wonder, if TCing can be skipped in such a small scale.
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Said in the language of love; Que sera sera. (Whatever will be, will be)
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Hello there boys. Question on Ante. I've got several dozens, maybe a hundred this year germinated palms. Some of them are not quite into my area, so I thought that in the late summer I could pack a few pieces to the bananas I will be sending to the croatia. Now the question is, would you like any of these:
- Nannorrhops richiana 'Green'
- Nannorrhops richiana 'Silver'
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- Phoenix dactylifera (I've got 2 now, so one could go to you..., the other will be my winter home and otherwise outdoor palm. Will maybe try overwintering outside with protection later).
and several trachys...
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Thank You Jack but I allready have all thoese toghether with:
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Nice. I suppose Nannorrhopses are performing well in your hot summers and shorter dry winter ey. It's hardy to almost -20°C nad needs lots of sun, so if it gets weak summer here in Central Europe, its life is at stake.
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OK guys, here's some Pahari Kela update. After 3 or more weeks of sitting ducks, the Hill banana finally did it. It started to grow above the soil level on one pup.

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Pahari Kela today, when the heat waves came, I had to water really well, so it might be the reason, why it responded with a new growth (moved to the soil, I removed the outter leaf remains from the old rotting leaf)

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We had 3 earthquakes in region today. First one 4/6 (Richter/MCS), second 5/7 and on the end "truly tiny" 2.2/2. Lot of shaking today .
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