Improving soil quality with chicken manure?

Want Them All · 06-21-2010, 09:14 AM

I'd like to improve the quality of the soil in my yard. This stuff is pretty cheap, under a dollar for a bag at big box stores. Figure I'd spread it out all over the yard and water it in. Is this a good idea? Chicken or steer? Any difference between the 2? Or should I get the "N-Rich" compost by Kellogg? My soil is clay.

Thanks,

cherokee_greg · 06-21-2010, 09:31 AM

Here is two good sites for you check them out it may help you

Manure guide | Sustainable Gardening | GardenWise

Manure Matters: How Manures Measure Up

Good luck

sunfish · 06-21-2010, 09:42 AM

I would ,and gypsum

Want Them All · 06-21-2010, 11:04 AM

Thanks guys,
One more question: my yard was originally covered with wood barks that are kinda large, they look reddish brown, and haven't broken down much in 5 years. They are very hard, I suspect that they will never decompose, or maybe in 50 years! I wish the landscaper would've used the finer wood chips. Anyways, should I:

[1] replace all the hard wood barks with the manure, or
[2] remove the barks, place manure layer, and reapply the barks on top, or
[3] spread the manure layer on top of the wood barks

sunfish · 06-21-2010, 11:25 AM

I would leave the bark helps retain moisture. Just spread manure on top and water it in.

Want Them All · 06-21-2010, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish

I would leave the bark helps retain moisture. Just spread manure on top and water it in.

That's the easiest option out of the 3.

Abnshrek · 06-21-2010, 01:21 PM

Use Tony's way its simple. :^)

sunfish · 06-21-2010, 01:39 PM

You could use a rototiller to spead up the process

Dean W. · 06-21-2010, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish

I would leave the bark helps retain moisture. Just spread manure on top and water it in.

Yes, Tony's way is the easiest. The bark will break down especially being covered. Composted manure is excellent for your yard. I use all I can get.

Barney Oatmeal · 06-21-2010, 11:22 PM

Careful with that chicken 'nure - it is really rich and can burn the plants!
BTDT!

Richard · 06-22-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All

I'd like to improve the quality of the soil in my yard. This stuff is pretty cheap, under a dollar for a bag at big box stores. Figure I'd spread it out all over the yard and water it in. Is this a good idea? Chicken or steer? Any difference between the 2? Or should I get the "N-Rich" compost by Kellogg? My soil is clay.

Thanks,

The N'Rich is far better than bagged manure and cheaper in terms of nutrients per pound.

cherokee_greg · 06-22-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

The N'Rich is far better than bagged manure and cheaper in terms of nutrients per pound.

Is this the stuff your talking about ?
Kellogg Soil Products| Kellogg Garden Products

Want Them All · 06-22-2010, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

The N'Rich is far better than bagged manure and cheaper in terms of nutrients per pound.

I only bought enough to thinly cover about 2/3 of the yard, using steer manure instead of chicken. Maybe I'll try the N-Rich for the remaining area. In your opinion, are there any indications for using the manure instead of N-Rich?

Richard · 06-22-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherokee_greg

Is this the stuff your talking about ?
Kellogg Soil Products| Kellogg Garden Products

Yes. The 3-cubic-foot bags of Amend, GroMulch, and N'Rich are all excellent products for small-scale amendment -- just choose the lowest price bag. The contents are well composted, balanced for plants, and have a buffered pH for western water supplies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All

I only bought enough to thinly cover about 2/3 of the yard, using steer manure instead of chicken. Maybe I'll try the N-Rich for the remaining area. In your opinion, are there any indications for using the manure instead of N-Rich?

Before trying to improve the soil of a significant area, I would first look at a relevant soil report. I would only use manure as a last resort.

harveyc · 09-09-2011, 12:37 AM

It looks like I'm going to quit using Kellogg soil/compost products. Someone posted this video in another forum Kellogg Sewage Sludge “Compost” Scam | My Organic Vegetable Gardens and I did some searching which appears to support it, including a report by someone who called a Kellogg representative to get the scoop on the poop.

nannerfunboi · 09-09-2011, 01:35 PM

i find spreading some phosphate on that nitrogen will help
stabilize it too..
i use rabbit manure now..mostly because i have a good source (free)
and all i can use.. and it has good levels of phosphate,and some potassium..
i think suns thought on till it under is good idea..
my neighbors here think im nuts on compost..but they always show
up early summer and ask when they are putting in a tree,shrub,small
flower bed..etc..
i tell them..if we have a flood here.. im the high ground here..so
i'll be selling tickets.. LOL
good luck to ya...

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