Whats the best fertilizer ?

Nicolas Naranja · 10-08-2011, 12:00 PM

It all depends on where you are and what your needs are. Where I grow I can get away with 4-1/4 lbs applications of 0-0-60. On the coastal sands you are looking at 6-12 applications of 9-2-18 or 12-4-24. If you are in a low organic matter situation you could certainly benefit from using manure. Years ago I would have told you not to bother using foliar nutrition, but I am now a proponent of the products. During the summer I started hitting the plants at my house with foliar fertilizer and the improvement was immediate.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

It all depends on where you are and what your needs are. Where I grow I can get away with 4-1/4 lbs applications of 0-0-60. On the coastal sands you are looking at 6-12 applications of 9-2-18 or 12-4-24. If you are in a low organic matter situation you could certainly benefit from using manure. Years ago I would have told you not to bother using foliar nutrition, but I am now a proponent of the products. During the summer I started hitting the plants at my house with foliar fertilizer and the improvement was immediate.

Thanks.So for me being in heavy clay 0-0-60 should do ? I happen to have a few bags

momoese · 10-08-2011, 03:48 PM

Have you had your soil tested Tony?

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Have you had your soil tested Tony?

No.Guess I should

Nicolas Naranja · 10-08-2011, 04:42 PM

Definitely test your soil and get your plants tissue tested. Some soils have tons of potassium already.

pondplantgirl · 10-08-2011, 05:26 PM

I've been using a heat activated 13-13-13 for my artichoke plants, which are also big feeders. I have a friend who uses Miracle Grow powdered. Instead of mixing it with the water, he sprinkles it right on the soil and waters it in well. However, I believe that a heavy organic mulch will work just as well. I would suggest bagged steer manure, but some people cringe at the thought of poo on edible plants.

scottu · 10-08-2011, 05:39 PM

I just dig out a 6 foot round area down about four feet or so and replace with the best soil I can mix.I figure if the roots go much further they are strong enough to acclimate.
The dirt here would never even grow weeds otherwise.

Christian Rieger · 10-08-2011, 05:56 PM

Do a Google search for rock dust, chicken manure and bat manure.

Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Rieger

Do a Google search for rock dust, chicken manure and bat manure.

Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil.

Okay

pondplantgirl · 10-08-2011, 06:16 PM

After my large 10-year-old 15" koi died this year, I planted him under my California Gold, and it ended up producing 5 pups! I like to think his fishy spirit goes on in a banana kind of way.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pondplantgirl

After my large 10-year-old 15" koi died this year, I planted him under my California Gold, and it ended up producing 5 pups! I like to think his fishy spirit goes on in a banana kind of way.

http://www.bananas.org/f312/banana-fuel-14149.html#post169823

momoese · 10-08-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Have you had your soil tested Tony?

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Originally Posted by sunfish

No.Guess I should

Until then just add some more fish heads.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Until then just add some more fish heads.

Good idea

scottu · 10-08-2011, 07:19 PM

Okay, I did get a deal on the bat Guyana from an out going supply house at half price and I used it as a fert source, but palm tone cannot be beat for it's properties etc to alot of others that don't meet the official organic lable, as such.
As far as the organics, I really don't get a lot of the pissyness! all things degrade! And "Banana fuel" rules!!!

oakshadows · 10-08-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scottu

I just dig out a 6 foot round area down about four feet or so and replace with the best soil I can mix.I figure if the roots go much further they are strong enough to acclimate.
The dirt here would never even grow weeds otherwise.

The additive is good but could you decipher the rest of your message "after even weeds" otherwise? I'm a little slow.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 08:43 PM

[quote=oakshadows;175283] I'm a little slow.

momoese · 10-08-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Until then just add some more fish heads.

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Good idea

But first you'll have to catch them.

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

But first you'll have to catch them.

Maybe I'll just collect some seaweed and wait till the first of the year to buy a license.

scottu · 10-08-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oakshadows

The additive is good but could you decipher the rest of your message "after even weeds" otherwise? I'm a little slow.

I think my point to witch you are referring was, that I don't use a fert as an amendment since my soil is so bad, Instead I just dig out the existing soil and replace it with my homemade soil instead. Sometimes you have to punt! And then if you do that you will be sure of what is in your soil.

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