Whats the best fertilizer ? - Page 2

sunfish · 10-08-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scottu

I think my point to witch you are referring was, that I don't use a fert as an amendment since my soil is so bad, Instead I just dig out the existing soil and replace it with my homemade soil instead. Sometimes you have to punt! And then if you do that you will be sure of what is in your soil.

What is the native soil ?

scottu · 10-08-2011, 10:24 PM

Mostly backfill of some sort, Cans, bottles, garbage. Its generally about 6 to 12 inches of a dirt like stuff that will allow some cover plants to grow, then below that is 2feet of crap it all depends on the spot you dig as to what you will come up with, the only sure thing is, is that if you dig through it you will hit clay and that will be there to about 4 feet deep and that is why I always dig out that much if I am going to plant anything that I really want to grow.

scottu · 10-08-2011, 11:17 PM

Hey Mitchel, what kind of dog do you walk? I know all about that dog walking thing, I had a 150 lb black Shepard I had to walk twice a day, miss him a lot!

momoese · 10-08-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scottu

Hey Mitchel, what kind of dog do you walk? I know all about that dog walking thing, I had a 150 lb black Shepard I had to walk twice a day, miss him a lot!

I have a dog walking service so it depends on the day. As for my personal dogs I have two Australian Shepherds.

Richard · 10-10-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Rieger

Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil.

I do not know of any synthetic fertilizers on the market. They are all naturally occurring minerals that have been dissolved in water in various proportions along with a tiny amount of plant enzyme for chelation, and then dehydrated.

Further, these so-called synthetic fertilizers do not kill life in the soil unless you apply it in massive overdosages -- in which case your plants would also be dead.

I am very familiar with the popular internet photo that shows a petri dish with a healthy sample of soil with beneficial organisms, and then the follow-on photo of the dead organisms after 2 tablespoons of miracle grow have been added. That is an extreme overdose! The proper rate is 1 teaspoon per gallon, which would make 6 gallons, and the petri dish barely has a volume of a half cup. Those two tablespoons are the equivalent of 3 gallons of chicken manure. If we submerged the petri dish in 3 gallons of chicken manure the life forms would also die!

momoese · 10-11-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Maybe I'll just collect some seaweed and wait till the first of the year to buy a license.

At this point with the cost of the license, saltwater enhancement, and second pole sticker (not really a sticker anymore) it makes more sense to wait. The one nice thing about surf fishing right now is the lack of crowds. The water is chilling, the air is cooling, the kids are back in school.

sunfish · 10-11-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by momoese

At this point with the cost of the license, saltwater enhancement, and second pole sticker (not really a sticker anymore) it makes more sense to wait. The one nice thing about surf fishing right now is the lack of crowds. The water is chilling, the air is cooling, the kids are back in school.

It's the surfers that bother me,I've hooked some big ones.

sunfish · 10-12-2011, 07:13 AM

Fertilizing Your Organic Garden - For Dummies

oakshadows · 10-12-2011, 08:33 AM

Thanks, the soil here is all sand so we have been doing almost the same as you. There is plenty of compost here for us since we have 5 head of cattle. It works good for us and the worms love it, also improving it. Don't go as deep as you and only dig where the plant is going to be. Trying not to disturb the fungi and bacteria so they can help the plant absorb the minerals. Adding chealated micro minerals and using sea salt solution works for us also. Heavy on the mulch saves some watering time but the timer goes on next year when the season starts. Plenty to do here.

momoese · 10-12-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

It's the surfers that bother me,I've hooked some big ones.

This really scares me so I try to stay way clear of anyone in the water. A single hook would suck, but just imagine 3 sets of trebles on a LC 110!

sunfish · 10-12-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by momoese

This really scares me so I try to stay way clear of anyone in the water. A single hook would suck, but just imagine 3 sets of trebles on a LC 110!

Just reel them in and release. I've had a few tell me I can't fish in a certain sport.They think they own the ocean.

caliboy1994 · 10-19-2011, 12:32 PM

My soil is weird. I have a layer of good topsoil on top of a thick layer of heavy clay. As of now I just plant my plants in cactus mix mixed with PERLITE and fertilize it with organic fertilizer. I recently added a layer of cocoa mulch. I'm thinking about starting using fish emulsion with each watering next spring. Any recommendations?

momoese · 10-19-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994

My soil is weird. I have a layer of good topsoil on top of a thick layer of heavy clay. As of now I just plant my plants in cactus mix mixed with PERLITE and fertilize it with organic fertilizer. I recently added a layer of cocoa mulch. I'm thinking about starting using fish emulsion with each watering next spring. Any recommendations?

Be careful using coco mulch if you have dogs or neighbors dogs have access to that area.

caliboy1994 · 10-19-2011, 01:12 PM

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Be careful using coco mulch if you have dogs or neighbors dogs have access to that area.

Don't have a dog. But both of my next door neighbors do. They aren't getting into our backyard though.

oakshadows · 10-19-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

Be careful using coco mulch if you have dogs or neighbors dogs have access to that area.

Why is that?

caliboy1994 · 10-19-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oakshadows

Why is that?

Because cocoa mulch is made from cacao bean shells. Cacao products contain theobromine, which is toxic to dogs and cats. And cocoa mulch smells like chocolate!

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