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steven 09-02-2009 02:31 PM

Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
should i use this stuff everyday on banana plants? or just follow the instructions to use every 7-14 days?

conejov 09-02-2009 02:40 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
I would say just follow the instructions you dont want to burn it.,

bencelest 09-02-2009 03:02 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Follow the instruction.

JuniPerez 09-02-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
I use it twice a week on my bananas (basjoo/sikkimensis/lasiocarpa), plus I have 3 month slow-release banana fertilizer mixed into the ground... so far no burns. The leaves are nice and big.

steven 09-02-2009 04:02 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
yah im gonna follow the instructions, thanks for your opinions! :woohoonaner:

bencelest 09-02-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniPerez (Post 94655)
I use it twice a week on my bananas (basjoo/sikkimensis/lasiocarpa), plus I have 3 month slow-release banana fertilizer mixed into the ground... so far no burns. The leaves are nice and big.

It is just not the burn but it's the way it's growing. The plant may become too fat so the tissues are too large and too soft. Just like a boy too obese to walk to do its errand in everyday living.
If you can do it more power to you.
You can do it the way you want it . I'd follow the instruction.

damaclese 09-02-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
id get better fertilizer

Richard 09-02-2009 06:27 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Becareful about adding a water-soluble fertilizer when you already have slow-release in the ground. Depending on which manufacturer and formula of water soluble -- it can cause the slow-release to be released all at once right then. I've seen examples of terrible plant death from this.

JuniPerez 09-02-2009 09:41 PM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bencelest (Post 94673)
It is just not the burn but it's the way it's growing. The plant may become too fat so the tissues are too large and too soft. Just like a boy too obese to walk to do its errand in everyday living.
If you can do it more power to you.
You can do it the way you want it . I'd follow the instruction.

You've got me thinking now... this is only my second year, so maybe in the long run I'll pay? I'll take precautions just in case... nobody wants a fat banana!

Thanks...

mjdsinsacto 09-03-2009 12:07 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 94691)
Becareful about adding a water-soluble fertilizer when you already have slow-release in the ground. Depending on which manufacturer and formula of water soluble -- it can cause the slow-release to be released all at once right then. I've seen examples of terrible plant death from this.

Richard,

I have 3 new young bananas purchased from justin's divorce sale here. I potted all three last Friday with some Oscomote time release in the potting mix.

If not water-soluble fertilizer, what should I feed the baby banana plants, how soon, and how often?

God forbid I murder them before the month is out.

I have them in partial light shade right now, we're hitting temps in the high 90s in Sacramento this week.

I

Patty in Wisc 09-03-2009 12:37 AM

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First of all, MG all purpose is either 15-30-15 or 24-8-16 & that is not good for nanas. They need more K(potash) as in NPK, like 15-5-30 (what I use - called 'Banana Fuel'). When mine are ACTIVELY growing I feed them every 7-10 days. If they are slow to push out a leaf or sick, I don't feed them then or maybe try 1/4th dose to see if they perk up. When they perk up & grow, feed them but not as often if you have timed released ferts in the soil.
mjd, I hope this answers your questions too :)
Good point Benny...well said.

chong 09-03-2009 02:15 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 94691)
Be careful about adding a water-soluble fertilizer when you already have slow-release in the ground. Depending on which manufacturer and formula of water soluble -- it can cause the slow-release to be released all at once right then. I've seen examples of terrible plant death from this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjdsinsacto (Post 94769)
Richard,

I have 3 new young bananas purchased from justin's divorce sale here. I potted all three last Friday with some Oscomote time release in the potting mix.

If not water-soluble fertilizer, what should I feed the baby banana plants, how soon, and how often?

God forbid I murder them before the month is out.

I have them in partial light shade right now, we're hitting temps in the high 90s in Sacramento this week.

I

mjd,
Richard qualified his statement with "when(if) you already have slow-release (fertilizer) in the ground (or potting soil)", then it would be risky to feed your plant with water soluble fertilizers. That would be like doubling up on the fertilizers. Hence, if you do not have the slow-release fertilizer in the soil, fertilize as you would normally. But, anyway, for new transplants, I would not fertilize them outright. I would use a transplanting solution after transplanting, but just water normally thereafter until the plant puts out strong leaves before resuming with a regular fertilizing schedule.

bencelest 09-03-2009 02:38 AM

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Specially now. Now is the time to slow down fertilizing and watering your bananas to toughen them up for the coming winter in order to survive. Soft tissues will just turn to mush easily including the pstem. Just do the opposite when spring comes. This is for those people living in zone 9 and below and without a greenhouse.

damaclese 09-03-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bencelest (Post 94796)
Specially now. Now is the time to slow down fertilizing and watering your bananas to toughen them up for the coming winter in order to survive. Soft tissues will just turn to mush easily including the pstem. Just do the opposite when spring comes. This is for those people living in zone 9 and below and without a greenhouse.

when do you noramly get your first frost?

bencelest 09-03-2009 09:25 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damaclese (Post 94836)
when do you noramly get your first frost?

Actually on the late part of December or January..
For me it is still too early to slow down fertilizing and watering but to others who have frost early it's time to think about it.
At this time here in Monterey it looks and feels like we have the hottest month of the year so I just fertilized last week.

JuniPerez 09-03-2009 09:35 AM

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I can't wait to face our first frost and freeze this year (1st frost usually October)... FreezePruf!!!! =-)

Thanks for the advice Benny...

Richard 09-03-2009 09:35 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Now (September) is a great time winterize your plants with supplements of potash and mineral magnesium. This is especially true for pit fruit trees -- you are feeding them for next year's crop.

supermario 09-03-2009 10:05 AM

Re: Miracle Gro all purpose plant food
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc (Post 94779)
First of all, MG all purpose is either 15-30-15 or 24-8-16 & that is not good for nanas. They need more K(potash) as in NPK, like 15-5-30 (what I use - called 'Banana Fuel'). When mine are ACTIVELY growing I feed them every 7-10 days. If they are slow to push out a leaf or sick, I don't feed them then or maybe try 1/4th dose to see if they perk up. When they perk up & grow, feed them but not as often if you have timed released ferts in the soil.
mjd, I hope this answers your questions too :)
Good point Benny...well said.

Most fertilizers made for bananas(that I've seen) do have a higher K to NP ratio. The one I use is 6-3-16. I follow recommendations on the UF web site and have had fantastic results so far.

The miracle grow will probably work fine if it's the 24-8-16 type..but, if you have other options similar to the above mentioned ferts, use those instead.

justjoan 09-03-2009 01:20 PM

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I use the same fert. (Banana Fuel)that Patty does and it made a big difference in the growth of the 2 Super Dwarf Cavandish that I have, great stuff!:0519:

steven 09-03-2009 02:48 PM

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the kind im using is 24-8-16


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