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Old 04-06-2015, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Anybody use it on their bananas ?
Im hesitant to use it as Ive got way to many bananas fruiting now , if thats possible LOL
I have been using it the last few months on the rest of my fruit trees and have seen dramatic results everything is producing heavy crops this year ...
This is Basically a lazy mans sprouted seed tea ...
Go to the beer brew store buy 6 row or 2 row malted barley NOT milled or roasted
Grind in a coffee grinder finer the better 1oz per gallon water
Brew it for 4 hours, with aeration is best but no more than 4 hours it will make acetic acid at some point .
I usually add a Tsp Humic acid per gallon.
Use as a soil drench no more than every 2 weeks
It seems to be most effective on plants that are heavy feeders so I assume bananas will respond quickly and should make them fruit faster.
I started using it on plants that just wernt thriving and had steller results
The only negative was on my bromeliads it gave them deformed leaves they like to grow slow ..
This is not fertilizer but an enzyme kinda like fulvic acid on steroids LOL
Best thing is it is cheap and easy ...
Brew 10 gallons for about a buck.
I grow organic so not sure how plants will react if you grow with chemical ferts ..
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This will provide a usable source of carbohydrates and a minor growth hormonal effect. It is not a significant source of nutrients (NPK etc.).
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Definitely not minor, I started using it on problem plants , you know sometimes you have plants that you are ready to pitch cause they just are not doing well... I grow Brugmansia's and I trade alot of cuttings I usually have extra cuttings Ill just stick in a 1 gal pot and eventually give away , so I had 3 or 4 that had been sitting around totally root bound that had small leaves and looked pathetic, One application and within a few weeks they put out new growth similar to when you pot up , nice big dark green leaves, I tried it on my tomatoes and got steller results ,, My jabitacoba doubled in size over the winter.
Its about enzymes and making the NPK available to the plant , and for about 10c per application the risk reward is pretty good LOL

The plant Im most excited about is my Brodgon Avocado grown from seed that has never flowered I have given it 3 applications since january and It has finally flowered.
One of the only things I have ever used that a got results that far exceed what I expected
Try it on something your about to give up on , best buck I have ever spent.
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Compared to available hormone products, the hormone content is minor. Further, it is usually combined with technical alfalfa extract in a particular ratio to obtain a more powerful effect. In the world of plant growth regulators, it is a hormone catalyst.

Enzyme production is largely a function of potassium availability, and of course a supply of nitrogen plus carbon, phosphate, calcium and photo energy to carry out the production.

If these are not already in the soil then there is no way the barley extract will create them; i.e., no soil organism or fertilizer will create new atoms of N, P, or K from other atoms.
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Why It works .....

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I see this is an old thread but as a former Brewmaster I am very interested and have comment and question.
The idea makes good sense. Malting barley forces it to produce enzymes that it wouldve naturally (and then some) made to break down the Carbohydrates into sugars to feed the new plant. For brewing purposes the process is frozen after the enzymes are made by drying because the enzymes are time/tempurature dependent. After purchase the malted Barley is rehydrated and heated to activate the enzymes to continue breaking down the carbs to sugars but now to feed the yeast to turn into alcohol.
By using Brewers Malt you can make a fantastic product for a new plant. However I knew nothing about hormones or acetic acid being a product.
Question is: 4 hour Tea? Is there a temperature requirement?. By my knowledge MOST of the enzymes are activated and are soon after destroyed at 156ish Farenheit. a few at lower temperatures. Full starch breakdown after an hour. (proven with an Iodine test). Parameters for this particular use would be greatly appreciated!!...I have 30 lbs of malt in the garage right now. I think I will try a few things...Thanks!!
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Remember gardeners are not so careful as a brewmaster so brewing a malted barley tea because of the possible production of acetic acid is not the best choice . Just grind to a fine powder and sprinkle around the plant and water in adding a fulvic or humic acid product to the water is a good idea .. Growers are only interested in the high amount of enzymes that have been produced by the malting process. You can also use malted corn same process grind, top dress and water in ....
This is really no different than making a sprouted seed tea except malters have the science down for maximum pro-tease production , as gardners we are more interested in all the enzymes that are produced.
The important fact is grinding whole seeds , I am not familier with brewing terminology what is brewers malt ? Dosage for the tea was 1 oz per gallon of water.... You can also add 1 cup per CF in potting soil ... I will give credit to Clackamas Coot of organic cannabis fame.. Use the lightest 2 row MB or 6 row ...
I have used it on all my fruit trees and some you get immediate Growth spurts others the results are more long term, I have not used it on my bananas yet as I have way more than I can use and Im slowly cutting back ... Mj growers claim it reduces time in flower by 10-15 % I would think this would be a big help for those growing in colder climates
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I see this is an old thread but as a former Brewmaster I am very interested and have comment and question.
The idea makes good sense. Malting barley forces it to produce enzymes that it wouldve naturally (and then some) made to break down the Carbohydrates into sugars to feed the new plant. For brewing purposes the process is frozen after the enzymes are made by drying because the enzymes are time/tempurature dependent. After purchase the malted Barley is rehydrated and heated to activate the enzymes to continue breaking down the carbs to sugars but now to feed the yeast to turn into alcohol.
By using Brewers Malt you can make a fantastic product for a new plant. However I knew nothing about hormones or acetic acid being a product.
Question is: 4 hour Tea? Is there a temperature requirement?. By my knowledge MOST of the enzymes are activated and are soon after destroyed at 156ish Farenheit. a few at lower temperatures. Full starch breakdown after an hour. (proven with an Iodine test). Parameters for this particular use would be greatly appreciated!!...I have 30 lbs of malt in the garage right now. I think I will try a few things...Thanks!!
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