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Old 09-17-2009, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok here is whats going on. Im not very smart with this fertilizer thing. Heres were im at. I been growing plants for years. I never used fertilizer. Im new to bananas. I have been shopping for fertilizer for them. I could never find any of the ones allot of you recomended. Someone said the 2-1-3 was the best they say at the stores there is no such thing. What should I do they told me to get 10-10-10 at the store.
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Isn't 10-10-10 straight up lawn fertilizer?

I've never heard everyone agree on just one ratio. I was told to use 15-5-30 (3:1:6), or 6-3-15 (2:1:5), or 24-8-16 (3:1:2), etc... the recommendation seems to vary depending on who I ask.

The one I buy from Stokes is their banana fertilizer (6-2-12 with minors). Don't know if it's the best, but it has worked well so far.
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Ok here is whats going on. Im not very smart with this fertilizer thing. Heres were im at. I been growing plants for years. I never used fertilizer. Im new to bananas. I have been shopping for fertilizer for them. I could never find any of the ones allot of you recomended. Someone said the 2-1-3 was the best they say at the stores there is no such thing. What should I do they told me to get 10-10-10 at the store.
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In a VERY general sense.. The important thing to remember is that bananas need plenty of K. So, the last number should always be the highest. The same can be said for most fruit trees, but bananas need more K than most.

I use 6-3-16 plus minors. I also apply additional potash during the late spring and summer months.
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Im sure the person that told you 2-1-3 meant to say that is the ratio you want to look for. That is not the specifik NPK value. The 3 numbers are Nitrogen(N), Phosphorus(P), and Potassium(K). Most banana fertilizers are very high in potassium, some are high in nitrogen, and all are pretty low in phosphorus. So, at a 2-1-3 ratio you may find something like 10-5-15 or 16-8-24.. etc etc.

In a VERY general sense.. The important thing to remember is that bananas need plenty of K. So, the last number should always be the highest. The same can be said for most fruit trees, but bananas need more K than most.

I use 6-3-16 plus minors. I also apply additional potash during the late spring and summer months.
I checked out the stokes there kinda high priced. Is there any brand like from lowes or HD
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Well, Osmocote (widely available at any store) is 14-14-14. I just bought 16-16-16 (forgot the manufacturer's name) at Lowes too. Richard, a knowledgeable member here, sells fertilizers as well. I bought some from him. These are all good choices.
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don't get all worried you will learn threw time how to best firtalize your plant the best advice i can give any one and this goes for all plants is watch them closely see how they respond to light heat cold water or Food they will show you if they are happy by growing well and vigorously if you do something and the plant doesn't respond or looks weirs then don't do that again its that simple its sorta trial and aror when you are new and if you kill a plant don't get discouraged buy a new one and try again sooner of later you will figure out how to best take care of it

Bananas are really vary hardy tropical plants the grow fast and die young thats there way so

I hope that helps i know it doesn't specifically answer you question but other on this thread already have i thought you sounded like you could use a pep talk more
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don't get all worried you will learn threw time how to best firtalize your plant the best advice i can give any one and this goes for all plants is watch them closely see how they respond to light heat cold water or Food they will show you if they are happy by growing well and vigorously if you do something and the plant doesn't respond or looks weirs then don't do that again its that simple its sorta trial and aror when you are new and if you kill a plant don't get discouraged buy a new one and try again sooner of later you will figure out how to best take care of it

Bananas are really vary hardy tropical plants the grow fast and die young thats there way so

I hope that helps i know it doesn't specifically answer you question but other on this thread already have i thought you sounded like you could use a pep talk more
Thank you. Yes I know in the back of my mind I keep telling myself to chill out LOL Im making it dificult. The bananas will be ok.
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Home Depot sells a fertilizer for Mango and Avocado trees. I believe it's 12-5-8 with minors. That should work for you.
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HD and Lowes have MG Tomato food it will do in a pinch as the K is very high. But it is missing some of the minors and over time you will see a calcium deficincy. Wellspring100 on ebay has a good banana food. Just search banana fert on ebay and it should come up. Thats what I used this year and had a lot of growth.
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The 2-1-3 ratio that was recommended is based on what the banana uses. You can use pretty much any ratio, but the excess will just be wasted and may contribute to eutrophication. For example, if you use 10-10-10, all of the K will be used and about 2/3s of the N, but 70 % of the P will be wasted. Also, There is a problem with excess P ---it can tie up minerals and make them unavailable to the plant. Excess N and excess K will pretty much just be washed away.
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it seems to me that every one has there own idea about fertilizer I go with Don chafins personal brand from Going bananas(http://www.going-bananas.com/) i had no problems.
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well i used 13-13-13 once a month and miracle grow for tomatoes once a month these has worked for me but every body has there on way. and i cant forget the horse crap they really love that.
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Check out the nursery fertilizer list in the Wiki: Info:Fertilizer - Bananas Wiki
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it seems to me that every one has there own idea about fertilizer I go with Don chafins personal brand from Going bananas(http://www.going-bananas.com/) i had no problems.
The website does not list the fertilizer--do you know what the ratio is?
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Sorry I don't but when I go out side today I'll check the bag.
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Excellent info.... thanks...!!!

Now, question:

What do they mean by "fruiting" vs "ornamental"????
To me, many bananas people call ornamental give inedible fruit, but still it's a fruit. Or do they just mean edible "fruiting bananas" vs inedible fruiting "ornamentals"???? That's confusing.
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HD and Lowes have MG Tomato food it will do in a pinch as the K is very high. But it is missing some of the minors and over time you will see a calcium deficincy. Wellspring100 on ebay has a good banana food. Just search banana fert on ebay and it should come up. Thats what I used this year and had a lot of growth.
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Now, question:

What do they mean by "fruiting" vs "ornamental"????
To me, many bananas people call ornamental give inedible fruit, but still it's a fruit. Or do they just mean edible "fruiting bananas" vs inedible fruiting "ornamentals"???? That's confusing.
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For going bananas firtilizer it's 6-2-12 thats what I use.
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