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Old 10-05-2011, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I was talking to my G-ma today and she said that he always got the best fruit and veggies from trees/garden when using fireplace/grill ashes, and Llama poop, Yes Llama poop! I looked up on the computer/phonebook! What are the odds that there is a Llama breeder 5miles away from me! Have any of you heard of this before I volunteer to clean up after a Llama for a day? I believe my G-ma told me the were called Llama Beans! (after hearing that i wont be having Lima beans for a while lol).
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I was talking to my G-ma today and she said that he always got the best fruit and veggies from trees/garden when using fireplace/grill ashes, and Llama poop, Yes Llama poop! I looked up on the computer/phonebook! What are the odds that there is a Llama breeder 5miles away from me! Have any of you heard of this before I volunteer to clean up after a Llama for a day? I believe my G-ma told me the were called Llama Beans! (after hearing that i wont be having Lima beans for a while lol).
I am pretty sure manure will work just as well as any other.Does not have to be Llama.
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Manure Matters: How Manures Measure Up
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I am pretty sure manure will work just as well as any other.Does not have to be Llama.
She was pretty specific about it! I figured any would work as well, but she said some about Llamas having 4 stomachs do something different to the actually waste and it works better then that of horse which has 1 stomach... I was never good at biology so this is complete hearsay!
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Your grandma's success was more likely due to the potash in the fireplace/grill ashes. It does take a year or more to break down and be consumed by plants, so don't expect instant success. But if grandma was applying them year after year, I'm sure in the long run she had happy harvests.
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guess ill just have to build up courage to go shovel llama poo now! lol thanks sunfish!
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Gee... reminds me of a story...
Once upon a time there was an old llama herder. About once a month he'd go down into town to grab supplies & have a beer.
While in the saloon he was digging in his pockets for change & pulled out a few "llama beans", whereupon the bartender asked "What are them things?"
"Those are 'wisdom pills' " says the old llama herder.
"I'll give ya a beer for a couple." sez the barkeep.
"Sure!" says the llama herder. "Grab a few of 'em!"
"These taste like crap!" says the bartender, munching away.
"See, you're getting smarter already!" says the llama herder.
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Look for an alpaca farm...an alpaca is really just a form of llama but they have been a trendy thing to raise lately (sort of like the "new" pot bellied pigs, sugar gliders, emu/rhea/ostrich, chinchillas...etc.) Unfortunately the word has been out for awhile and usually they sell the stuff, not give it away. Sort of like mushroom compost. It used to be cheap, but now it is high dollar organic fertilizer. Add some ashes and some rock phosphate and you've got a pretty good mix. Add a little greensand and it is even better. If you can soak some charcoal in some diluted urine to add to the mix it is supposed to be almost ideal.
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If you can soak some charcoal in some diluted urine to add to the mix it is supposed to be almost ideal.
I think ill pass on this one! I usually do stuff hard core... but i think in this case im going to pass!!!!!
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If you read up on Terra Preta it is hard not to get excited about the possibilities. Imagine extremely fertile soil that is organic and never needs fertilizer added to it! One main ingredient is Bio-Char...but there is a catch. You need to sort of pre-impregnate the Bio-Char with some Nitrogen for it to really work.
Amazonian Terra Preta Can Transform Poor Soil Into Fertile
You might be able to just mix the Bio-Char with animal manure and get the same effect as long as you let it compost a bit. I didn't really study this particular article but there is a lot of info on the web. The original Terra Preta was suspected to have a lot of human waste in it (not that I'm recommending THAT!) But...human urine is sterile, high in Nitrogen, and practically free.
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Terra preta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here they stress "liquid" (urine) to "charge" the Bio-Char. It looks like you might need a special South American worm to really get the job done right.

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The folks from Milwaukee might disagree; they've been selling their poop since 1926!
see: Milorganite

Many moons ago my dad pumped our septic tank out onto the berry patch, would get 13 strawberries to the quart.
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Yeah, I know a lot of people use Milorganite. In fact, my Mother-In-Law gets "compost" from her local water treatment plant to put in her garden. I told her it was treated human waste but she insisted, "No, I'd never use that! This is compost!". Anyhow, somehow I can't seem to use it but I've had veggies from her garden and additionally if you buy veggies at the supermarket they probably used some of that as well as it is approved for that use. It is a mental thing, for sure.
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