Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Banana Plant Soil, Additives, and Fertilizer
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Banana Plant Soil, Additives, and Fertilizer This forum is an area where you may discuss the soil to grow banana plants in, as well as soil additives such as teas, composts, manures, fertilizers and related topics.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-10-2014, 10:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
Muck bananas
 
Nicolas Naranja's Avatar
 
Location: Pahokee, FL
Zone: 10
Name: Nick
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,217
BananaBucks : 458,809
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 66 Times
Was Thanked 5,662 Times in 1,562 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 7 Times
Send a message via AIM to Nicolas Naranja
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Quote:
Originally Posted by PR-Giants View Post
but I'd rather read a study that produces large bunches.
There is such a thing as a yield limit, and I don't think I've come across any studies where the average yield was much more than 30kg/plant. My professional experience regarding these types of products is that they do not further increase already high yields. I have seen fish emulsion double snap bean yields during an extended cold spell, and I have also seen it do nothing at other times. I imagine the GA has a more pronounced effect in the subtropics, where weather is more challenging.

Here's a link to a thesis from Costa Rica showing almost no effect for GA3
http://bibliodigital.itcr.ac.cr/xmlu...pdf?sequence=1
__________________
Some people go bananas, I went plantains.
Weather Underground PWS KFLCANAL7

Last edited by Nicolas Naranja : 12-10-2014 at 10:44 PM. Reason: add link
Nicolas Naranja is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Nicolas Naranja
Said thanks:
Old 06-27-2015, 05:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
GoinBananas
 
Going Bananas's Avatar
 
Location: Frwy 210&57 SoCal
Zone: 10
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 290
BananaBucks : 17,107
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 227 Times
Was Thanked 264 Times in 155 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Quote:
Originally Posted by PR-Giants View Post
Richard, it doesn't matter whether you call it a claim, a statement, or a brain fart, it's still FALSE.

Try posting a study that can validate your claim.


This is what happens in the Tropics when only some compost is added.

No fertilizers or PGRs were used, and adding Richard's "Stimulant" would not triple the yield.

100 lb. bunch of Cavendish

June 1


June 7


August 28



Here's a 50 lb. bunch of Cuerno de Alce platanos



Richard, it doesn't matter whether you call it a claim, a statement, or a brain fart,
it's still FALSE.

Try posting a study that can validate your claim.


This is what happens in the Tropics when only some compost is added.

No fertilizers or PGRs were used, and adding Richard's "Stimulant" would not triple the yield.

Brain Fart?.....
I dont recall ever experiencing that
but Brain FREEZE I have!

Thats !
I havent finished reading the thread
but it sounds like an invitation to experiment
for those curious members of this thread.

Im Lovin the DRAMA at this site

Cheers!

Last edited by Going Bananas : 06-27-2015 at 05:17 PM.
Going Bananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Going Bananas
Said thanks:
Old 06-27-2015, 05:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
GoinBananas
 
Going Bananas's Avatar
 
Location: Frwy 210&57 SoCal
Zone: 10
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 290
BananaBucks : 17,107
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 227 Times
Was Thanked 264 Times in 155 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard View Post
This product was developed for situations where the farmer either didn't have access to or more simply couldn't afford a "standard" nutrient program. It has been successful in a number of applications.

Several trials have been carried out here (my home) and in countries afar.

In particular for bananas, a plantation in Honduras bought a several cases of quarts/liters to apply to about 200 acres of plantains. This was applied after initial bud fall instead of the usual application of seaweed extract. The yield over the former was about 1.5. Further, the yield of seaweed extract (essentially unrefined gibberellins) over no treatment at all was about two fold. So I would expect in U.S. home gardens where good horticultural practices are in place that there would be a 50% to 100% increase in yield.

Again, I would be happy to send a sample bottle at no charge to experienced growers of bananas at this site.

Richard
Im over a year till my tc and some pups from momoese flowers
but I can try running the experiment with your (Viagra)stimulant product.

One given throughout the growing & blooming phase.
The second during the bloom phase only
and of course a control not receiving any of your stimulant.

Any one tried yet?

Thanx!
Going Bananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Going Bananas
Old 06-27-2015, 05:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
GoinBananas
 
Going Bananas's Avatar
 
Location: Frwy 210&57 SoCal
Zone: 10
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 290
BananaBucks : 17,107
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 227 Times
Was Thanked 264 Times in 155 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja View Post
"Decades of research has shown that bunch size (i.e., # fingers, & # hands) is determined many months before bud emergence and no magic potions added after your "initial bud fall" will affect that."

Bunch size is determined at bunch initiation, but ultimate yield is not. PGRs can increase girth and length of fingers which can increase yield. ProGibb is labeled for this very use.
If Im understanding Nick correctly,
He's saying that its a combination of both.
I can and will agree with that!!!

Proper nutrition during the growth period of the plant
and then dose up on the multivitamins
during the pregnancy/bloom phase!

Sounds like good advice
Going Bananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Going Bananas
Old 06-27-2015, 10:47 PM   #25 (permalink)
un-Retired
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks : 500,586
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was Thanked 12,543 Times in 4,721 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Going Bananas View Post
If Im understanding Nick correctly,
He's saying that its a combination of both.
I can and will agree with that!!!

Proper nutrition during the growth period of the plant
and then dose up on the multivitamins
during the pregnancy/bloom phase!

Sounds like good advice
PGRs are not vitamins, they are hormones.
__________________
Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Richard
Said thanks:
Old 06-28-2015, 11:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
GoinBananas
 
Going Bananas's Avatar
 
Location: Frwy 210&57 SoCal
Zone: 10
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 290
BananaBucks : 17,107
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 227 Times
Was Thanked 264 Times in 155 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Oooooh I see!
I didnt know its a growth hormone.

There are actually alot of articles when you google
Plant Growth Regulator(PGR) and gibberillic acid.
Natural extracted plant hormone GA would be similar to Superthrive
as opposed to the artificially created PGR.

Ill have to read more of this...

Upon further reading on some google articles,
seems like these growth hormones are more popular with the marijuana culture.
Gibberelins and PGR are the same, its just how theyre made and extracted.
Heres the link that I found...
Hormones /PGR`s/Vitimans - Research Thread Only | Rollitup

Thanx.
Ritchy

Last edited by Going Bananas : 06-28-2015 at 11:42 PM.
Going Bananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Going Bananas
Old 06-29-2015, 07:24 AM   #27 (permalink)
un-Retired
 
Richard's Avatar
 
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks : 500,586
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was Thanked 12,543 Times in 4,721 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

It is true that superthrive contains seaweed extract, but the primary PGR ingredient in that product is alfalfa extract.

Here's a Wikipedia article about PGRs:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_hormone
__________________
Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Richard
Old 06-29-2015, 02:07 PM   #28 (permalink)
GoinBananas
 
Going Bananas's Avatar
 
Location: Frwy 210&57 SoCal
Zone: 10
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 290
BananaBucks : 17,107
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 227 Times
Was Thanked 264 Times in 155 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

Richard
I thought you were in your
Wild Safari vacation.
You still take the time to chime in?
That's awesome!

Reserve me a bottle of that
nanerViagra
when you get back.

Thanx!

Last edited by Going Bananas : 06-29-2015 at 02:11 PM.
Going Bananas is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Going Bananas
Said thanks:
Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: B-1
Next Thread: Soil for plantain in south florida





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Differences between Pisang Awak cultivars sold as "Ice Cream" and "Misi Luki"? Kostas Main Banana Discussion 0 12-25-2012 06:01 PM
My "Mysore","Monkey Fingers","Praying Hands" and "Saba"! Kostas Main Banana Discussion 2 08-07-2011 04:11 PM
My "Tall Red","African Rhino Horn" and "White Iholene" Kostas Main Banana Discussion 3 08-05-2011 09:58 AM
Difference between "Grand nain" & "rajapuri"? Pics inside vaindioux Main Banana Discussion 4 10-22-2008 06:22 PM
"Bananas you can grow" book on ebay Tropicallvr Banana Books, Book Reviews, & Other Reading Material 2 04-12-2008 08:36 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 PM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.