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Old 12-10-2014, 10:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

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but I'd rather read a study that produces large bunches.
There is such a thing as a yield limit, and I don't think I've come across any studies where the average yield was much more than 30kg/plant. My professional experience regarding these types of products is that they do not further increase already high yields. I have seen fish emulsion double snap bean yields during an extended cold spell, and I have also seen it do nothing at other times. I imagine the GA has a more pronounced effect in the subtropics, where weather is more challenging.

Here's a link to a thesis from Costa Rica showing almost no effect for GA3
http://bibliodigital.itcr.ac.cr/xmlu...pdf?sequence=1
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Richard, it doesn't matter whether you call it a claim, a statement, or a brain fart, it's still FALSE.

Try posting a study that can validate your claim.


This is what happens in the Tropics when only some compost is added.

No fertilizers or PGRs were used, and adding Richard's "Stimulant" would not triple the yield.

100 lb. bunch of Cavendish

June 1


June 7


August 28



Here's a 50 lb. bunch of Cuerno de Alce platanos



Richard, it doesn't matter whether you call it a claim, a statement, or a brain fart,
it's still FALSE.

Try posting a study that can validate your claim.


This is what happens in the Tropics when only some compost is added.

No fertilizers or PGRs were used, and adding Richard's "Stimulant" would not triple the yield.

Brain Fart?.....
I dont recall ever experiencing that
but Brain FREEZE I have!

Thats !
I havent finished reading the thread
but it sounds like an invitation to experiment
for those curious members of this thread.

Im Lovin the DRAMA at this site

Cheers!

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This product was developed for situations where the farmer either didn't have access to or more simply couldn't afford a "standard" nutrient program. It has been successful in a number of applications.

Several trials have been carried out here (my home) and in countries afar.

In particular for bananas, a plantation in Honduras bought a several cases of quarts/liters to apply to about 200 acres of plantains. This was applied after initial bud fall instead of the usual application of seaweed extract. The yield over the former was about 1.5. Further, the yield of seaweed extract (essentially unrefined gibberellins) over no treatment at all was about two fold. So I would expect in U.S. home gardens where good horticultural practices are in place that there would be a 50% to 100% increase in yield.

Again, I would be happy to send a sample bottle at no charge to experienced growers of bananas at this site.

Richard
Im over a year till my tc and some pups from momoese flowers
but I can try running the experiment with your (Viagra)stimulant product.

One given throughout the growing & blooming phase.
The second during the bloom phase only
and of course a control not receiving any of your stimulant.

Any one tried yet?

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Old 06-27-2015, 05:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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"Decades of research has shown that bunch size (i.e., # fingers, & # hands) is determined many months before bud emergence and no magic potions added after your "initial bud fall" will affect that."

Bunch size is determined at bunch initiation, but ultimate yield is not. PGRs can increase girth and length of fingers which can increase yield. ProGibb is labeled for this very use.
If Im understanding Nick correctly,
He's saying that its a combination of both.
I can and will agree with that!!!

Proper nutrition during the growth period of the plant
and then dose up on the multivitamins
during the pregnancy/bloom phase!

Sounds like good advice
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If Im understanding Nick correctly,
He's saying that its a combination of both.
I can and will agree with that!!!

Proper nutrition during the growth period of the plant
and then dose up on the multivitamins
during the pregnancy/bloom phase!

Sounds like good advice
PGRs are not vitamins, they are hormones.
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Oooooh I see!
I didnt know its a growth hormone.

There are actually alot of articles when you google
Plant Growth Regulator(PGR) and gibberillic acid.
Natural extracted plant hormone GA would be similar to Superthrive
as opposed to the artificially created PGR.

Ill have to read more of this...

Upon further reading on some google articles,
seems like these growth hormones are more popular with the marijuana culture.
Gibberelins and PGR are the same, its just how theyre made and extracted.
Heres the link that I found...
Hormones /PGR`s/Vitimans - Research Thread Only | Rollitup

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Default Re: Grow More "Stimulant"

It is true that superthrive contains seaweed extract, but the primary PGR ingredient in that product is alfalfa extract.

Here's a Wikipedia article about PGRs:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_hormone
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Richard
I thought you were in your
Wild Safari vacation.
You still take the time to chime in?
That's awesome!

Reserve me a bottle of that
nanerViagra
when you get back.

Thanx!

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