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08-12-2009, 09:16 AM | #81 (permalink) |
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Re: The Future of Fertilizer
Well, to get back to your point Richard, N is not a problem because we make N based fertilizer from air using the Haber-Bosch process. P may be somewhat of a problem in the long run, since it is mined but it is often way over applied--it does not disappear like N--it usually binds to soil and stays there. K is available in seawater--it is between 2 and 4 % of sea salt. K is also a major component of most rocks. Mg is also between 2 and 4% of sea salt. Other trace minerals Iron, copper, boron are not that liminted.
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The ornamental annual flower industry and consumers are the greatest abusers of phosphates. This may be coming to a rapid end (thank goodness) because this mineral is already in short supply. The wholesale price has tripled in the last year.
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Interesting, maybe that is why Wmart started selling P free fertilizers--I thought it might have been a local environmental regulation to protect our local estuaries that are fed by N rich groundwater (about 10 mg/L). In any case removal of nutrients from sewage will be good for the environment.
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I was talking about removal of the nutrients from the sludge being good for the environment, not using the sludge--that contains many undesirable contaminants, including heavy metals, hormones, pharmaceuticals just to name a few.
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It may have passed in 2007 but went into effect this year. Or maybe it just passed this year after near-misses since 2007. Anyhow, it has been in the works for several years and did finally pass, but I can't find a link to the exact bill. Sorry. Edit...this may help: http://indian.ifas.ufl.edu/PDF/2009/...Fert_Rules.pdf
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I live in the county that sits right in the middle of the Bone Valley Deposit, the deposit used to produce about 75% of the US supply and 25% of the world supply of phosphate. My county is the most heavily mined, but there are mines in the counties all around mine. (We are also former #1 citrus producer in FL, home of Cypress Gardens, Bok Tower, and lots of garage meth labs. If you are in to water gardens, you may have heard the word "Slocum." The old Slocum store (and home?) was here too. It closed before I moved to town, and the building was torn down while I lived here. Remnants of the plants, ponds, and landscaping are still visible.) Here is the executive summary: Environmental issues (regulations, toxic spills) have caused some slowdowns in domestic phosphate production and pushed it to 3rd world countries and increased cost. As the mines in this county get used up the mining moves south, but they are pushing up against the south county line (Hardee) and are getting resistance from communities down there to opening more mines. If they can get the permits, some supply will be opened up and prices may ease some. If they can't get permits, price will remain high or rise. They expect the deposit to run out in 25 to 50 years. When you need something to put you to sleep, read about my home: Polk County, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A 5 part story: Sun - Florida: The State of Phosphate part 1 Sun - Florida: The State of Phosphate part 2 Sun - Florida: The State of Phosphate part 3 Sun - Florida: The State of Phosphate part 4 Sun - Florida: The State of Phosphate part 5
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Adrift, Thanks for the link--I'm glad to hear that FL has limited P input on lawns--it is basically not needed here. Last edited by sbl : 08-13-2009 at 09:28 PM. |
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