Re: Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

That is good to hear that you have such success with the Fruit Fuel. I too use it not just for my banana plants but also on my pineapple and Dragon fruit plants. First flowers and fruits ever this year on my Dragon Fruit.

Re: Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

Congrats on the dragon fruit. Beautiful flowers, but short lived. The fruit is best and sweetest if ripened on the plant. Enjoy!

My first dragon fruited within a few months and it was in a pot. That was a few years ago. I have a few stems that fell off in the shrubs and a few others in pots. Preparing for a fall transplant to an area where I have cleared and removed a large tree. Same with new bananas.

There is a farm stand on Pine Island where the dragons are climbing high into the oak trees and they harvest quite a few fruits from them. One of my favorite fruits to grow.

The only problems I have had are the squirrels, raccoons, and opossums go after the mangoes and the dragon fruit so I have to be quick when they are ripe. Also the mangrove rats show up once in a while. All try to have parties at night. :ha:

Re: Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

I don't care about Dr. Ruehr. It is immoral to resolve objective issues by taking a opinion poll. The objective issue is the form of P in fertilizer solution that is applied to the top of the soil and not the P already at the root zone. It is a stupid mistake to formulate soluble fertilizers for application to soil surfaces using conventional P compounds because conventional P compounds remain near the soil surface until tilled under.

Here is more literature about the mobility of phosphorus compounds within the soil:

Use of Phosphorous Fertilizers in Pressurized | Maher Saleh - Academia.edu

Note:

"Using conventional P sources in sprinkler systems, P did not penetrate more than 4 to 6 cm from the surface of a sandy loam soil (Lauer, 1988). With drip systems and such P sources, movement was limited to a few cm vertically – and even less laterally – from the emitter point (Ryan et al., 1988a; O’Neill et al., 1979;Bar Yosef and Sheikloslami, 1976). Again, mobility increased with lighter texture and the amount of P applied. However, substantial increases in mobility were recorded with less conventional P fertilizers. Thus, it is of interest to consider properties of various fertilizers in relation to precipitation /mobility. ...

Urea Phosphate

The study of Ryan et al. (1988a) showed higher water-soluble and NaHCO3
–soluble P after addition of acid fertilizers such as urea-phosphate (UP) compared toTSP, but noted the greater lateral and depth-wise movement of P within a heavy clay soil than with H3PO4 or conventional materials. Other studies with up showed much greater mobility in the soil than TSP and, as a consequence, greater fertilizing efficiency for tomato (Mikkelsen and Jarrell, 1987) and lettuce (Chase, 1985). In the latter case, P movement downwards was 12 cm and 10 cm laterally – all encompassing the crop root zone"

Re: Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

Anke,
Just wanted to say I am so happy with the fertilizer. Not only used it on the Banana plants but also on my tomatoes and Peppers. They are going nuts.

Thanks,
Craig

Re: Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

Thank you for the great feedback.
Feedback like this from actual users of the Fruit Fuel mean a lot more than hypothetical studies.
Keep up the good work.

Fruit Fuel - Banana Fuel UPDATE
 

Calm down, seems like every-once-in-awhile you go on a tirade. Life is too short to get so upset.

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Mr. Aruzinsky:
You have referenced a non-peer-reviewed article from an M.A. student in Egypt studying with a professor in Syria. Certainly the penetration of phosphates is an issue in alkaline soils but you are missing the point when it comes to fruiting plants. A minimal amount of available phosphate is necessary in proportion to potash. As far as plant metabolisms are concerned, the availability of Nitrogen to Potash should be 2 to 3. This is why Fruit Fuel is formulated in NPK ratios of 2:1:3 with pH balances suited to most soils. There are many peer-reviewed papers supporting this formulation -- in fact I contacted several of the authors when I designed this formula. Check the minor- and micro-nutrients in the Guaranteed Analysis -- you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Regardless, the immobility of conventional phosphates in soil has been alleged by many authors.

No, I am not missing the point because I never took issue with your 2:1:3 formulation. You are missing the point because 2:1:3 is not the ratio in the soil at the root zone because the phosphates in your fertilizer stay near the surface of the soil. It's a simple concept. For example, it would be relevant for you to reference a paper in a peer reviewed journal that said that conventional phosphates were mobile in non-alkaline clay soils. Otherwise, I suggest that you should stop pontificating on irrelevancies.

Incidentally, to whomever else it may concern, the immobility of phosphates in Richard's fertilizer has an easy workaround. Pour the solution into the planting hole before planting.

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That looks like an emotional outburst to me. At least, my tirades are informative.