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Old 06-04-2009, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just re-potted a d. cavendish but did not use fertilizer in the soil mix. It is about 2ft tall now. I want to put something like egg shells and/or fish guts in. Can I just put it on the top layer of the soil or do I have to take the plant out and mix it well with the soil?
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I use Dynamite slow release 14-14-14 granules on mine, just shaken on the top every few weeks. I did not mix any kind of fertilizer into the soil mix when planting and it has been doing great for the last year or so. I may, at the end of the season when my potted one goes back inside to his window, uproot it and hose all the soil mix used previously off and put in new mix to keep it healthy.
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First post on this thread,I have just purchased a red abyssinian banana,I live in the u,k just near London,and I have no ideas on what to feed it ,at the moment I am feeding chicken pellets,can anybody idvise me as this is my first banana
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This is an ornamental banana and hence use a citrus fertilizer. For more details see "Specific Needs of Bananas" in Info:Fertilizer - Bananas Wiki

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I just re-potted a d. cavendish but did not use fertilizer in the soil mix. It is about 2ft tall now. I want to put something like egg shells and/or fish guts in. Can I just put it on the top layer of the soil or do I have to take the plant out and mix it well with the soil?
Neither of these are a good approach for a fruiting banana.
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I just re-potted a d. cavendish but did not use fertilizer in the soil mix. It is about 2ft tall now. I want to put something like egg shells and/or fish guts in. Can I just put it on the top layer of the soil or do I have to take the plant out and mix it well with the soil?
Placing it on top would be best but it won't do much. Go with a slow release fertilizer such as Osmocote Plus.
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I have been using Dynamite all purpose slow release and once every other week i use
a water soluble fertilizer. I have seen good results with this. If you want organic consider working in some composted manure or worm castings.

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If you want organic consider working in some composted manure or worm castings.
The percentages of nutrients in these is so low that they are more accurately thought of as supplements. Otherwise they are both beneficial to plants. I use worm castings in every soil mix that I make for my own use.

A year-long study out here in commercial orchards has shown that worm castings applied topically alone are no better than topically applying composted mulch alone. This is significant because worm castings cost 20 times more than composted mulch. Another find of interest to homeowners and perhaps no surprise to many of you: the best scenario by far was topical worm castings covered with a 3-4 inch layer of composted mulch.

The "composted mulch" in the study was produced by first "cooking" enormous piles of shredded greenery clippings for 90+ days, then using mechanized sorters to produce several grades of products. The composted mulch is the 1-inch screened material.
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The percentages of nutrients in these is so low that they are more accurately thought of as supplements. Otherwise they are both beneficial to plants. I use worm castings in every soil mix that I make for my own use.

A year-long study out here in commercial orchards has shown that worm castings applied topically alone are no better than topically applying composted mulch alone. This is significant because worm castings cost 20 times more than composted mulch. Another find of interest to homeowners and perhaps no surprise to many of you: the best scenario by far was topical worm castings covered with a 3-4 inch layer of composted mulch.

The "composted mulch" in the study was produced by first "cooking" enormous piles of shredded greenery clippings for 90+ days, then using mechanized sorters to produce several grades of products. The composted mulch is the 1-inch screened material.
Thanks for the info, I generally dont care whether its organic or not, But some people try to avoid synthetics. I used well composted horse manure as a supplement to my mix at planting. I saw the cost of " black castings" at a local nursery and was shocked at the price for a small bag. I think its ridiculous considering all other sources of compost, more of a ploy towards people who want to be earth friendly. I believe if u had the time to farm worms and collect them yourself it could make it worth while.

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Thanks for the info, I generally dont care whether its organic or not, But some people try to avoid synthetics.
Yes, and sadly most of those folks don't realize that many water-soluble fertilizer products contain zero synthetics.

Hey for Hay! Composted horse poop is a great all-around supplement and well-balanced for subtropicals. Its a good idea though to inquire when the ranchers are worming their horses, because the dosage is quite high and you don't want it in your edible plants.
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I have taken the chicken pellets of the top of my red abyssiniun,do I need to replace them with anything else?.And thanks for the advice so far but what is citrus feed,sorry for my ignorance!!!
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Fertilizers formulated for Citrus have 2/3 as much Potash as Nitrogen and a lesser amount of Phosphate. Example percentages are 12-4-8, 15-5-10, 28-8-18, etc. These are excellent for ornamental bananas such as your red abyssinian. For more details, see Info:Fertilizer - Bananas Wiki
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I give my bananas in pots every two days 12+12+17+2 magnesium. I dissolve the Fertilizer in water. My red abyssiniun grows very quickly, look at my Gallery, they are 8 month old.
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Thanks Musa but being new to this side of gardening what ia this 12-12-17 thig mean
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N-P-K: 12+12+17+2magnesium

Nitrogen (N) 12%
Phosphate (P) 12%
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And how do you get this combination in a feed Musa?.
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The numbers are used as proportions of the basic nutrients: nitrogen, phosphorus potassium. These numbers can be found on store-bought fertilizers so the buyer knows what the constituents of the mix are.
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Thanks for the info, I generally dont care whether its organic or not, But some people try to avoid synthetics. I used well composted horse manure as a supplement to my mix at planting. I saw the cost of " black castings" at a local nursery and was shocked at the price for a small bag. I think its ridiculous considering all other sources of compost, more of a ploy towards people who want to be earth friendly. I believe if u had the time to farm worms and collect them yourself it could make it worth while.

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To get fresh castings, just find any container and throw in worms and food. They'll eat shredded paper, cardboard, rotten veggies, manure.....w/e
To harvest the castings, just feed on one side of the container, then switch to the other side. The worms will follow the food and leave the side that's been reduced to castings.

I sowed these adenium in 1/2" of castings and never got around to repotting them. I poked a hole in there with my finger to show the depth.
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Forgot to mention that I've decided that it's too hard (for me) to grow all organic in a closed system.
While plants in the yard have access to a wide compliment of fungi, protozoa, bacteria, ..... and can pull nutrients from a ways away, the resources of containerized plants are limited (IMO).
So now I'm throwing nutrients at [the potted plants] and they seem content.
I could feed a lot of tea and buy organic feeds, but I'm growing on the cheap and and lazy so it's slow release for my potted stuff, and the yard plants are on their own.
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