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Old 08-25-2009, 09:36 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Humic acid is less expensive, less laborious, and more effective.
yes I'm sure you are right Richard but not in the long run as char last for centuries and humic only last for a season or two right? and you certainly will not get any argument from as to the the ease of Humic acid in comparison to the char which is vary laborious anisauly but after its in and tilled you don't ever have to do it again if you applied a sufficient quantity in the first place i think its to each his own on this one

I'm pretty sold on it i have growth in the char Beds that i have not ever had are temps are in the 105 but it is cooling off at nigh i think the char holds on to the firt allowing for a more even slow release the plants look Greener have not exhibited any of the heat shock i normally see here and the roses have continued to bloom all summer were in the past particularly on the west side of my house they will stop in the months of July and August this could be do to many factors i have applied trace elements to that garden 2 times this year
i only fertilized ones at the beginning of the season when i did the beds

its kinda guess work for me i must admit iv been vary frustrated thees last couple of year with the success of my gardens and i am wiling to try any thing you have been most helpful with your advice thank you

PS and off the subject the K-mag is amazing! the leaf structures on my bananas are huge they have been putting out leafs that are bigger then the hold plant this last couple of weeks i cant thank you enough for it i wish every one would use it there would be no more threads on fertilizers lol i don't know maybe its because of the soil chemistry here perhaps it works extremely well with gypsum based soils its grate all be buying more when the time comes
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:18 PM   #122 (permalink)
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yes I'm sure you are right Richard but not in the long run as char last for centuries and humic only last for a season or two right?
The carbon in Humic acid will remain in the applied soil at least as long as the carbon in biochar.
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Hmmmm, I use Cowboy Lump Charcoal from Lowe's for smoking meats... I'm currently working on a bed for my AE AEs. If I do decide to add some to this bed am I better off soaking the ground up charcoal in a kelp extract solution or something else? Sounds messy
I wanna do it right (relatively speaking) since I hope to never have to dig this bed up again... well, at least not 'til next spring
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Hmmmm, I use Cowboy Lump Charcoal from Lowe's for smoking meats... I'm currently working on a bed for my AE AEs. If I do decide to add some to this bed am I better off soaking the ground up charcoal in a kelp extract solution or something else? Sounds messy
I wanna do it right (relatively speaking) since I hope to never have to dig this bed up again... well, at least not 'till next spring
if your cant get bio char then yes the Charcoal is the next best solution
soak it in kelp extract and Microsomal for a day or so add a 1/4 of a tsp of some lower dose firt to Tye the microsomal over until they get in the ground add lots of compost mix and plant you are not going to see that big a difference in the first year but next will good you mite see a big boost with the Kelp and microsomal they act almost immediately

Be sure to add more kelp periodical thats just good Garden Practice and you are going to have to firt a bit just take it easy until you get the feel of your new soil chemistry its goos firther and last longer
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Dunno if anyone's seen this article, but I found it quite interesting. Basically it's a summary of field testing done with Biochar in Cameroon showing that biochar effectively increases crop yield for maize by the same amount as either organic or mineral fertilizers alone. Of course adding said fertilizers to the biochar increased yield even more...
Biochar Fund - fighting hunger, deforestation, energy insecurity and climate change - Biochar works: Cameroon trial data show strong improvement in maize yield
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Got back from southern Costa Rica last week. We made a couple of trips to Paradise Botanical Garden: Rio Claro (Golfito), Costa Rica

The owner is a retired engineer from the banana company. His name is Robert Beatham He is older, but the first time I saw him he was wheeling out and loading 40 large lipstick palms into a pick up truck.

Anyway, more on Robert in another thread. They grow a lot of rice in Southern Costa Rica and the burned rice hulls are dumped at Robert's place the Paradise Garden.

In the picture below Robert's favorite banana, the red banana, growing from the charred rice hulls. He incorporates it into the soil for its nutrients and to give it loft.

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I have a 10x10x2.5 firepit in my backyard and I have burned quite a bit of stuff over the past 2 years (trees, cull bananas, palm fronds, doors, pallets etc...) So I am digging it out now and putting it around my trees that are on marl.





We shall see how the plants turn out. Needless to say the bananas on the marl/shellrock are't growing very well. I have three different soils in my backyard muck, sand, and marl/shellrock. It's so much different that what I dealt with on my old farm and somewhat different than what I have on the new farm.
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