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At the garden center I used to manage, I was told by customers that they had a problem with mold in the cocoa chips after a while. Of course, this probably doesn't pertain to Nevada gardens.
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i hope not! i put them around my roses and Lord knows that roses and mold do not get along yiks!
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I found the Cowboy coal at Walmart after practically sitting on the floor of Lowes and Walmart reading the bags of several brands. I had forgotten what brand to look for so was just searching for something that didn't have binders. Next step is to go crush it up and spread it!

good luck wih the crushing part. i tried that in a plastic bucket and that was hard on my hands. i used a 2x4. i found it easiest to just pour it out on to the concrete and pound it out that way. be carefully breathing that black dust is vary harmful to you lungs. it wasn't in the end a vary efisiont way of doing it lots of dust blew away. it was a windy day. I'm sure all find a better way if you do let me know. i Keep thinking that surely theres a machine to do this right. LOL you know something like the charcoal crusher by Brigs and straton. LOL or the Biochar maker by Ronco. lol we should ask Ronco to make us one!
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Throw it in to a burlap or other heavy sack and run over it with your car a few times.
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Biochar enthusiasts generally agree that raw biochar needs to be processed further prior to being added to the garden. Composting, or soaking with compost tea, is commonly used to charge the pore volume with beneficial organisms and nutrients. Soaking in a nutrient rich solution (examples are urine or fish emulsion) prior to composting is accepted practice.
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Very interesting, I'm going to give this a try on my clayish soil. Thanks for the tip.....(anythings gotta help)
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I sprayed it with seaweed extract
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Genius! So simple but I wouldn't have thought of that.
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why cant some one come up with a product thats all incompasing why do we all have to keep buying this ingredient and that ingredient for are gardens when and enterprising person could take all the nutrients along with the biochar microsomal minerals compost and put it in to one product it would be cheaper just from the standpoint of reducing transactions alone less shipping fewer chemical factories we have to start thinking about thees kinds of things in a more inclusive single solution as i like to say simple is better
maybe we all need to form a cop. with the intention of making products that not only salve are worlds pollution problems but that makes it simple and convent for people and that would solve my problem of knowing were to buy and what amounts of things to apply this concept make sense to me isn't it aways better to have things more controlled from the stand point of production and distribution? i know this all sounds off the subject but really its not. it's all about growing in a safer way with a more environmentaly friendly strategy
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I'm in Pauly! I'll pm you my address so you'll know where to send the checks when we start making money. It is a great idea though. Someone or group buy the ingredients and put them together and sell the product. Premier that sells pro mix I was at ther web site and they are now making mixes with mycorise and others with boicide and many other mixes for specific purposes. I'm sure if biochar is as good as it looks they will have a mix with it also.

Anyway, I made several batches of biochar this weekend. Just took a metal coffee can and filled it with sawdust. Put foil over the top placed in the woodburner and made a small fire. Its cool how the gasses burn off. Since it was sawdust it made this very nice workable char. Its different than just charcoal in that its a little gooey and smells really bad. I never noticed charcoal having that bad a smell. This stuff will vomit a dog off a gut wagon. I'll try to get some pics of it posted but the camera eats batteries and I'm all out.

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We can supply some of the ingredients like the coconut fibers. We are in talk with many coconut farmers in the Philippines. We told them how to prepare their coconut materials for making chips and coco brix. It would be a while before we can distribute it here via retail, cheaper than the existing ones that are imported from Sri Lanka. We are willing to talk with various interested people making to make their own brand of garden amendments or potting mixes and we supply the coconut fiber or coconut husk chips component, and the bulk orders are faster to get and delivered.

Anyway, one of the problems of Coconut materials is the sodium, and Sri Lankan suppliers are touting their coconut fibers as the one with the lowest Sodium. Sodium is highly soluble and can be easily washed, but we will do some cation exchange trick like immersing the fibers in a solution of K-Mag then rinsing it off. Then we dry and pack them for bulk shipping. The advantage of the K-Mag treatment is that it is organic, and displaces almost all of the sodium with potassium and magnesium, elements that are needed that will help plants, especially bananas.

Just in case in doing your own mixes and decide to use coconut fiber components along with your biochar, I can go ahead and move our coconut project ahead of schedule. Just PM me if you are interested. We don't do retail at this time.

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well another Sunday another biochar project under my belt iv now done the garden on the left side of my front door approach its looking nice did the compost cocoa chips cow manure (sorry Richard it was all i could get) micros from powdered Kelp and course the biochar turned it all in about 5 times my backs killing me lol Planted a about 5 linsturms its to late in the year to plant any more rose trees as they would not have time to set roots before the 110 deg weather i hope its not to feminine looking to have all those rose trees but their just beautiful here and out of all the things that you can grow here roses do so well do to the dry air i almost never get mildew and theres no problems with the grafts freezing as it hardly ever goes below 32 i was reading more about the biochar and i know now its going to take some time to really help i also read that adding more each your for several years is a good idea helps to keep the soil actively renewing particularly with the yearly inputs of organic materials so since i had some trouble braking up allot of char i don't feel so bad about not getting the right amounts in all just keep adding small amounts each year i was Reading in a bio symposium that this is the way they are teaching out in the Fields any way its vary important that we don't all go making biochar just to add to are gardens it should only be a left over byproduct of other activities remember you are burning to make this stuff and thats allot of co out in to atmosphere i think it would be best if we all let some one that has a bio char reactor do it for us as they will be using the by products to make electrical power or other things and hopefully be controlled by the EPA with the proper flow scrubbers on the combustion sources or what ever i don't know all that much about the commerce side of biochar what good dose it do if a hundred million people all start burning there garden waste out back to make biochar that makes no sense to me
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I'm in Pauly! I'll pm you my address so you'll know where to send the checks when we start making money. It is a great idea though. Someone or group buy the ingredients and put them together and sell the product. Premier that sells pro mix I was at ther web site and they are now making mixes with mycorise and others with boicide and many other mixes for specific purposes. I'm sure if biochar is as good as it looks they will have a mix with it also.

Anyway, I made several batches of biochar this weekend. Just took a metal coffee can and filled it with sawdust. Put foil over the top placed in the woodburner and made a small fire. Its cool how the gasses burn off. Since it was sawdust it made this very nice workable char. Its different than just charcoal in that its a little gooey and smells really bad. I never noticed charcoal having that bad a smell. This stuff will vomit a dog off a gut wagon. I'll try to get some pics of it posted but the camera eats batteries and I'm all out.

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I was talking with a Friend yesterday and i wanted to revisit this idea of making a signal product if its truly going to be Eco friendly it has to be made locally and with ingredients that can be either scavenged off of other processes or made on site again trucking things in defeats the point of saving resources and not generating harmfully byproducts
also making Biochar in your back yard: if you don't have a vary high Tieck biochar furness then you are releasing lots of carbon in to the atmosphere it can be done safely by using mirrors to reflect soler heat on to the biochamber so you don't have an out side combustion souse JoReal pointed that out nicely in a previously stated comment in this vary thread
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Paulo I really don't have any numbers to back this up but maybe someone here will have some answers. The biochar I made came from sawdust. If I didn't make it into biochar it was headed to the compost pile. Even decomposing wood fibre makes greenhouse gases. I'm not sure if more is made through Pyrolysis. Given it is given off at a faster rate. Its my understanding burning wood with oxygen present gives off co2 (carbon dioxide) with low oxygen present it gives off co (Carbon Monoxide). Carbon monoxide is short lived in the atmosphere. I'm not sure which one is worse for the enviroment. But when you make the biochar it does flare off gases. Some things to consider is that the use of fertilizer is a big contributer to greenhouse gases. Also, this surprised me but the gas that is the biggest contributer to greenhouse effect is water vapor.

Maybe you can see if there is a water processing plant locally where you can get the stuff left over from the process. I never used it but hear some give it away free and it is a good amendment.

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Paulo I really don't have any numbers to back this up but maybe someone here will have some answers. The biochar I made came from sawdust. If I didn't make it into biochar it was headed to the compost pile. Even decomposing wood fibre makes greenhouse gases. I'm not sure if more is made through Pyrolysis. Given it is given off at a faster rate. Its my understanding burning wood with oxygen present gives off co2 (carbon dioxide) with low oxygen present it gives off co (Carbon Monoxide). Carbon monoxide is short lived in the atmosphere. I'm not sure which one is worse for the enviroment. But when you make the biochar it does flare off gases. Some things to consider is that the use of fertilizer is a big contributer to greenhouse gases. Also, this surprised me but the gas that is the biggest contributer to greenhouse effect is water vapor.

Maybe you can see if there is a water processing plant locally where you can get the stuff left over from the process. I never used it but hear some give it away free and it is a good amendment.

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thats good stuff to know thank you for your input Clark county water district dos use the left overs bio mass from there water purification plants i never used it all look in to it one of the reasons i haven't is because i was told that theirs a left over polymer in the firt and i wasn't curtain what that did or if it was truly inert i sure don't want to add any thing harmfull after spending tons to amend the soil in my yard the bio project is quite costly for me i don't have access to allot of free farm wast and such.
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Get what stuff? Sawdust or biochar, I am lost here.
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Biosolids! Scot. From the water treatment plants.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ty!
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